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Post by jjas on Feb 1, 2014 13:00:20 GMT -5
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 1, 2014 17:42:39 GMT -5
See one flying over my farm and I'm shooting it down.
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Post by michaeladkins on Feb 1, 2014 18:07:06 GMT -5
With amount of land I hunt, a RC helicopter will be sufficient. ;-)
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Post by firstwd on Feb 1, 2014 18:32:57 GMT -5
See one flying over my farm and I'm shooting it down. You may be a little behind on that one. Guys around here have been using ultra light planes for years. |
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Post by duff on Feb 1, 2014 21:30:49 GMT -5
My uncles place was next to rc airport. Hated those things but part of hunting there. If some guy wants to use one for scouting...meh good luck. I'd say trail cams are more effective.
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 1, 2014 22:30:23 GMT -5
Not only No but Hell No we have to draw the privacy line somewhere and its totally unsportsmanlike .Frankly it is no ones business what animals or stands or anything else is on my land.These scout drones will not just stop at the property lines and they are not noiseless and could destroy a hunters hunt because some nosy person wanted to air scout that day. |
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Post by firstwd on Feb 1, 2014 22:54:03 GMT -5
Not only No but Hell No we have to draw the privacy line somewhere and its totally unsportsmanlike .Frankly it is no ones business what animals or stands or anything else is on my land.These scout drones will not just stop at the property lines and they are not noiseless and could destroy a hunters hunt because some nosy person wanted to air scout that day. This statement brings us back to the idea of spotlighting. Where is the line drawn? People internet scout now with all the satellite information and now GPS maps that include owner information. Where exactly should that line be drawn? |
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Post by throbak on Feb 2, 2014 8:47:09 GMT -5
I thought they were looking for POT
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Feb 2, 2014 9:18:58 GMT -5
Not only No but Hell No we have to draw the privacy line somewhere and its totally unsportsmanlike .Frankly it is no ones business what animals or stands or anything else is on my land.These scout drones will not just stop at the property lines and they are not noiseless and could destroy a hunters hunt because some nosy person wanted to air scout that day. This statement brings us back to the idea of spotlighting. Where is the line drawn? People internet scout now with all the satellite information and now GPS maps that include owner information. Where exactly should that line be drawn? I believe that is what hunters said about crossbows, compound bows, inline muzzleloaders, scouting cameras, cameras sending pics to computers or phones, fully rifled slug barrels, shooting long distance with better ammo and scopes, food plots and mojo decoys. |
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 2, 2014 11:01:10 GMT -5
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Post by shouldernuke on Feb 2, 2014 11:06:19 GMT -5
This statement brings us back to the idea of spotlighting. Where is the line drawn? People INTERNET scout now with all the satellite information and now GPS maps that include owner information. Where exactly should that line be drawn? I believe that is what hunters said about crossbows, compound bows, inline muzzleloaders, scouting cameras, cameras sending pics to computers or phones, fully rifled slug barrels, shooting long distance with better ammo and scopes, food plots and mojo decoys. I think that the main point here and in my post is that these devices are nothing more than an invasion of privacy by not law enforcement but the guy next door who may or may not be your buddy. The fact is that the other things you listed there are sportsmanship issues .Weapons do not make or break the hunt in the sportsmanship column for me and never have .I look at a food source either planted or carried in as a lure that may or may not work.Better equipment is matter of "good" sportsmanship as is anything we handle with our own hands that is a weapon or goes on the weapon to insure a "Clean " kill rather than wounded and lost animals is what all hunters should reach for. The camera Internet scouting well its always kind of stuck in my craw a hunter could capitalize and know exact;y what was there and never step foot except one time and know the exact day to head for the stand he was headed for .This one has always crossed the line for me . I have and will continue to push for spotlighting to be made totally illegal in this state .It is something that crosses the line into privacy invasion laws IMHO that is not enforced and should be . |
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Post by mkfrench on Feb 2, 2014 12:44:45 GMT -5
Anyone else still upset about the dimmer switch being moved from the floor board to the turn signal?
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 2, 2014 12:51:23 GMT -5
Anyone else still upset about the dimmer switch being moved from the floor board to the turn signal? Lol... And doing away shift on the floor and those cursed automatic transmissions... |
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Post by firstwd on Feb 2, 2014 12:55:31 GMT -5
Anyone else still upset about the dimmer switch being moved from the floor board to the turn signal? I always thought that a response to the ever decreasing ability of the left leg since it seemed to happen in regular succession after automatic transmissions came around. |
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Post by jjas on Feb 10, 2014 10:41:52 GMT -5
I know some of you think this topic may be a non issue, but Pope and Young recently offered this....
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Systems (commonly called "drones") are familiar as a military aerial reconnaissance and weapons platform. They are increasingly playing a more popular role in civilian life. UAV's have high potential to contribute to the fields of wildlife biology, search-and-rescue, agriculture and many other applications. However, use of these highly sophisticated remote-controlled aircraft to scout, monitor and stalk North American big game to aid in bowhunting activities is a fundamental violation of the rules of Fair Chase. The Pope & Young Club believes the use of this technology as a bowhunting aid represents a significant threat to fair chase bowhunting and fair distribution of bowhunting opportunity.
We urge all Pope & Young Club members to refrain from using Drones/UAV's to locate, monitor, scout or stalk any North American big game species. UAV-assisted bowhunting violates the existing rule that states, "you may not use electronic devices for attracting, locating, or pursuing game, or guiding the hunter to such game."
While the Pope & Young Club acknowledges the potential use of UAV's for purposes of science and game surveys and even to attain non hunting shots such as scenery, etc. for outdoor television shows, we feel strongly that in order to protect the principles of fair chase and fair opportunity, UAV's may not be used as a bowhunting aid. We have a responsibility to make sure that bowhunting remains a primitive pursuit involving woodcraft and skill, not merely exploiting technology.
Accordingly, P&Y supports efforts by state wildlife authorities to ban the use of UAVs to aid or assist in bowhunting.
IMHO, (for many) this is just the next step in game cameras. We started with "trail timers" that let us know when deer walked through, today we have cameras that call/email us with real time pics and next up....drones.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 10, 2014 20:31:28 GMT -5
I know some of you think this topic may be a non issue, but Pope and Young recently offered this.... Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Systems (commonly called "drones") are familiar as a military aerial reconnaissance and weapons platform. They are increasingly playing a more popular role in civilian life. UAV's have high potential to contribute to the fields of wildlife biology, search-and-rescue, agriculture and many other applications. However, use of these highly sophisticated remote-controlled aircraft to scout, monitor and stalk North American big game to aid in bowhunting activities is a fundamental violation of the rules of Fair Chase. The Pope & Young Club believes the use of this technology as a bowhunting aid represents a significant threat to fair chase bowhunting and fair distribution of bowhunting opportunity. We urge all Pope & Young Club members to refrain from using Drones/UAV's to locate, monitor, scout or stalk any North American big game species. UAV-assisted bowhunting violates the existing rule that states, "you may not use electronic devices for attracting, locating, or pursuing game, or guiding the hunter to such game." While the Pope & Young Club acknowledges the potential use of UAV's for purposes of science and game surveys and even to attain non hunting shots such as scenery, etc. for outdoor television shows, we feel strongly that in order to protect the principles of fair chase and fair opportunity, UAV's may not be used as a bowhunting aid. We have a responsibility to make sure that bowhunting remains a primitive pursuit involving woodcraft and skill, not merely exploiting technology. Accordingly, P&Y supports efforts by state wildlife authorities to ban the use of UAVs to aid or assist in bowhunting. IMHO, (for many) this is just the next step in game cameras. We started with "trail timers" that let us know when deer walked through, today we have cameras that call/email us with real time pics and next up....drones. Reading this makes me believe any deer taken in an area where trail camera are used would not qualify for P&Y status. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 10, 2014 21:07:40 GMT -5
I know some of you think this topic may be a non issue, but Pope and Young recently offered this.... Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Systems (commonly called "drones") are familiar as a military aerial reconnaissance and weapons platform. They are increasingly playing a more popular role in civilian life. UAV's have high potential to contribute to the fields of wildlife biology, search-and-rescue, agriculture and many other applications. However, use of these highly sophisticated remote-controlled aircraft to scout, monitor and stalk North American big game to aid in bowhunting activities is a fundamental violation of the rules of Fair Chase. The Pope & Young Club believes the use of this technology as a bowhunting aid represents a significant threat to fair chase bowhunting and fair distribution of bowhunting opportunity. We urge all Pope & Young Club members to refrain from using Drones/UAV's to locate, monitor, scout or stalk any North American big game species. UAV-assisted bowhunting violates the existing rule that states, "you may not use electronic devices for attracting, locating, or pursuing game, or guiding the hunter to such game." While the Pope & Young Club acknowledges the potential use of UAV's for purposes of science and game surveys and even to attain non hunting shots such as scenery, etc. for outdoor television shows, we feel strongly that in order to protect the principles of fair chase and fair opportunity, UAV's may not be used as a bowhunting aid. We have a responsibility to make sure that bowhunting remains a primitive pursuit involving woodcraft and skill, not merely exploiting technology. Accordingly, P&Y supports efforts by state wildlife authorities to ban the use of UAVs to aid or assist in bowhunting. IMHO, (for many) this is just the next step in game cameras. We started with "trail timers" that let us know when deer walked through, today we have cameras that call/email us with real time pics and next up....drones. Reading this makes me believe any deer taken in an area where trail camera are used would not qualify for P&Y status. Sounds like it...but I don't really care what P & Y has for their contest rules.. BTW - P & Y are OK with baiting... So much for "the principles of fair chase and fair opportunity". Is anyone aware of any state that is seeking to ban UAVs for deer scouting? How about Google Earth for scouting? |
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Post by jjas on Feb 10, 2014 21:12:49 GMT -5
Reading this makes me believe any deer taken in an area where trail camera are used would not qualify for P&Y status. Sounds like it...but I don't really care what P & Y has for their contest rules.. BTW - P & Y are OK with baiting... So much for "the principles of fair chase and fair opportunity". Is anyone aware of any state that is seeking to ban UAVs for deer scouting? How about Google Earth for scouting? According to the link from the original post, Colorado is the first state to have banned them.... |
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 10, 2014 21:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Feb 10, 2014 21:45:59 GMT -5
If the cost wasn't an issue, one would be fun to have to jack with the pot growers and meth heads.
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