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Post by kindofsudden on Oct 28, 2013 10:48:15 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. Good guys and good info here.
I know there is a forum area for this, but my situation is sensitive. Basically during my busy early fall (started a new job) I failed to accurately understand how the DNR's whitetail licensing works. As a result, I ended up bagging two deer on one crossbow license on my property before I realized I was required to buy another crossbow license prior to bagging deer #2.
I have always followed the law and believe in the responsible harvesting of game, and now I feel like crap realizing I didn't do this correctly. Does anyone know a down-to-earth CO that I could explain this to and come to a win-win conclusion? I don't have money to pay a huge fine or something, so I'm hoping that bringing this situation to the right CO can make everything right again.
Thanks, and let me know. Lesson learned.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 10:55:04 GMT -5
Was this your own property?
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Post by kindofsudden on Oct 28, 2013 10:58:11 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2013 11:01:54 GMT -5
Then you don't need a license of any kind to take deer off of it. You still have to abide by limits, seasons , etc.
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Post by swilk on Oct 28, 2013 11:02:20 GMT -5
If you own the property then you should not need a license at all .....
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Post by swilk on Oct 28, 2013 11:02:42 GMT -5
As long as it wasnt two antlered deer ....
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Post by kindofsudden on Oct 28, 2013 11:03:03 GMT -5
In that case I want my money back. LOL! Just kidding, seriously I don't need a license on my own property? Is that just for deer or any game animal?
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2013 11:06:42 GMT -5
In that case I want my money back. LOL! Just kidding, seriously I don't need a license on my own property? Is that just for deer or any game animal? From the Indiana hunting guide.. License ExemptionsThe following are exempt from license requirements: •Residents or nonresidents participating in a DNR-licensed field trial. •Resident owners of Indiana farmland or lessees of Indiana farmland who farm that land, their spouses and children living with them, while hunting, fishing or trapping on the farmland they own or lease. This exemption does not apply to land owned by a business, corporation or partnership unless the shareholders, partners, members or owners are comprised solely of the members of an immediate family and farm that land. Farmland means agricultural land that is devoted or best adaptable to the production of crops, fruits, timber or the raising of livestock, or is assessed as agricultural land for property tax purposes. •Residents of Indiana engaged in full-time military service and who are carrying their leave orders and a valid Indiana driver’s license or Indiana voter registration card. •An individual who is younger than 13 years old; does not possess a bow, crossbow or firearm; and is accompanied by an individual who is at least 18 years of age and holds a valid license. •Youth participating in free youth hunting weekends. The following nonresidents can hunt with a resident license: •A nonresident younger than 18 years old may hunt, trap or fish with a resident license if a parent, grandparent or legal guardian is an Indiana resident. •Nonresident military personnel on active duty and stationed in Indiana may hunt or fish with a resident license. Nonresident owners of Indiana farmland (and their spouse and children who reside with the nonresident) may hunt, fish or trap on the farmland the nonresident owns without a license only if the following conditions are met: 1.The nonresident’s state allows the same exemption for the same species for Indiana residents who own farmland in that state*; 2.While hunting, fishing, or trapping on the farmland, the nonresident must keep proof of ownership (for example, a tax receipt identifying the nonresident as owner) in a place where the proof is readily accessible by the nonresident. * For example, if a nonresident is from state X that only allows Indiana residents who own land in that state an exemption to hunt small game on land they own without a license, then the same exemption would apply in Indiana for a nonresident who owns Indiana farmland and is hunting small game on that farmland. If state X does not include other species (e.g., deer, turkey) in the exemption, then the nonresident must have and carry a valid nonresident license and any applicable stamp privileges to hunt those species in Indiana. This exemption does not apply to land owned by a business, corporation or partnership unless the shareholders, partners, members or owners are comprised solely of the members of an immediate family and farm that land. Nonresidents who lease land in Indiana are not exempt and must purchase nonresident licenses.
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Post by hunthard4 on Oct 28, 2013 11:07:51 GMT -5
Any game animal, but as stated above, have to stay within the bag limits.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 11:09:34 GMT -5
Still needs to be checked in though, so your probably still in violation. You also have to be the owner of the land.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2013 11:10:40 GMT -5
BTW - Thanks for stepping up to right a perceived wrong, even if you were in the right all along. Most would just shut up about it.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2013 11:14:15 GMT -5
Still needs to be checked in though, so your probably still in violation. You also have to be the owner of the land. yep...that is part of "following all other rules". But, he has 48 hours to check the deer in. Hopefully he did just that..
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Post by kindofsudden on Oct 28, 2013 11:37:39 GMT -5
My property could PROBABLY fit into the "farmland" classification. I guess I will just arrive at the conclusion that I am good here. I am within my bag limit, appropriate weapon for the season, and got checked in same day on both kills. Sound right?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 11:44:31 GMT -5
Is there timber on your property that could be harvested now or in the future? If so, you qualify.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 12:15:13 GMT -5
If you don't have farm income, (ex. you claim farm income/loss on your tax return), then your not a farmer.
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Post by swilk on Oct 28, 2013 12:20:14 GMT -5
As long as it is classified as "Agriculture" for tax purposes you are fine.
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Post by zm1117 on Oct 28, 2013 12:20:46 GMT -5
Then you don't need a license of any kind to take deer off of it. You still have to abide by limits, seasons , etc. All you need is a tag then. Ive owned my property for four yrs. Always bought everything I used to buy before I bought my place
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2013 12:22:17 GMT -5
If you don't have farm income, (ex. you claim farm income/loss on your tax return), then your not a farmer. I asked about that many years ago and was told by the head of DNR enforcement that growing timber, even if not cut yet, counted as " farming".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 12:23:03 GMT -5
The law does say that you have to farm the land.
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Post by swilk on Oct 28, 2013 12:23:41 GMT -5
If you don't have farm income, (ex. you claim farm income/loss on your tax return), then your not a farmer. I asked about that many years ago and was told by the head of DNR enforcement that growing timber, even if not cut yet, counted as " farming". Yep ... rules and regulations say nothing about income. Best suitable for certain practices OR classified as Ag for tax purposes.
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