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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 23, 2013 18:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Jul 23, 2013 19:19:47 GMT -5
I was a bit surprised when I read the response to my question.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Jul 23, 2013 19:24:28 GMT -5
Wow! I don't agree with that rule at all!
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Post by greghopper on Jul 23, 2013 20:02:18 GMT -5
I would bet that the phase "does not possess a firearm"...is not met for a person that is "concealed carrying" while in field with a youth!!!!
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Post by deadeer on Jul 24, 2013 0:32:50 GMT -5
I know the CO's are doing their job by posting the actual law as it is written, but there are many times a simple explanation in their own words would help make a lot more sense. And to add what was stated by Greg Hopper, there are situations that the ccw law trumps what is not written in open terms. I also want to know if the law stated about no firearms in a campground or nature preserve are applying to ccw also? Anybody know?
Thanks, Jay
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 24, 2013 4:33:26 GMT -5
That needs to change for certain.
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Post by GS1 on Jul 24, 2013 6:30:28 GMT -5
I agree it needs to be changed, but appreciate the actual law being posted as it is written. Very often what one CO may explain in his own words will differ from how another CO explains something in their own words.
I would say it is also a good idea to contact your local CO on these issues and get their take on the law. After all, knowing the law comes first and knowing the CO that you will most likely come in contact with's interpretation of the law could be very helpful.
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Post by swilk on Jul 24, 2013 7:28:22 GMT -5
The way that law is written I am in violation when I carry my daughters gun while walking to or from our blind. Or handing it to her inside the blind if a deer approaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 7:45:17 GMT -5
Like Woody said, it needs to be changed. It should have been changed when the CC law passed and allowed carry at times previously not allowed, such as archery season. Individual interpretation shpuld never be a factor and if your in violation or not.
As for as the original writing of the law, it has always been a mistake. The mentor should ALWAYS be able to take control of the firearm at all times. That is not lawful with this writing.
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Post by 36fan on Jul 24, 2013 11:17:43 GMT -5
I agree Woody.
My thought while reading the "law", is that I would be in direct violation if I took possession of the youth's weapon while in the field. What is the point of having an adult present if they cannot take possession of the hunting weapon if they feel the child is handling the weapon inappropriately or recklessly?
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jul 24, 2013 12:54:25 GMT -5
I will be in possession of a crossbow walking to and from the blind in the youth season. My 8 year old daughter could not possibly walk in the woods carrying the crossbow by herself. She cant cock the crossbow or load it properly. Indiana hunting laws are the worst in their wording/understanding. Ask any two CO's any question and you will get three different responses to the same questions.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jul 26, 2013 9:00:58 GMT -5
Indiana Division of Fish and Wildlife State law in IC 35-47-2-1 allows a person to carry a handgun “while engaged in a legal hunting activity.” Therefore, it would be legal for the adult to carry a handgun (not any other firearm) during this special youth season since state law allows it.
Straight from the DNR.
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Post by uncleharley on Jul 26, 2013 10:06:08 GMT -5
Just a guess here. But there was a guy busted a year or so ago for carrying during youth hunt. Seems he shot the deer for his kid with his handgun & the the kid tagged it as if he shot it. I understand everyones issue with carrying while hunting but sometimes personal integrity goes out the window.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 26, 2013 10:20:08 GMT -5
This isn't the only little tweek that needs made. With all the changes getting suggested every year, why can't the DNR pull the boot straps a little tighter and go for a complete overhaul? Set aside 2 years, make nothing off limits, and rewrite the whole book.
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Post by jjas on Jul 26, 2013 12:20:32 GMT -5
Just a guess here. But there was a guy busted a year or so ago for carrying during youth hunt. Seems he shot the deer for his kid with his handgun & the the kid tagged it as if he shot it. I understand everyones issue with carrying while hunting but sometimes personal integrity goes out the window. If a person lacks integrity during the hunting season, then it would seem likely to me that they lack integrity ALL of the time..... |
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Post by jjas on Jul 26, 2013 12:21:51 GMT -5
Indiana Division of Fish and Wildlife State law in IC 35-47-2-1 allows a person to carry a handgun “while engaged in a legal hunting activity.” Therefore, it would be legal for the adult to carry a handgun (not any other firearm) during this special youth season since state law allows it. Straight from the DNR. Perhaps a clarification is needed from our resident DNR representative on this subject? |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 26, 2013 12:38:43 GMT -5
Indiana Division of Fish and Wildlife State law in IC 35-47-2-1 allows a person to carry a handgun “while engaged in a legal hunting activity.” Therefore, it would be legal for the adult to carry a handgun (not any other firearm) during this special youth season since state law allows it. Straight from the DNR. I believe the law quoted is more of a state law than a hunting regulation. State law trumps game regulations. The DNR will be clarifying this regulation along with the same for the youth turkey season..that won't happen over night.... |
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Post by oneshot on Jul 27, 2013 6:30:32 GMT -5
Just for the record Indiana does not have a CCW law.
Indiana has a LTCH. License To Carry a Handgun. Carry how you like, concealed or open carry.
Calling it a CCW I would think confuses people who are not familiar with LTCH.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 8:40:10 GMT -5
Just for the record Indiana does not have a CCW law. Indiana has a LTCH. License To Carry a Handgun. Carry how you like, concealed or open carry. Calling it a CCW I would think confuses people who are not familiar with LTCH. You shouldn't need a license to open carry, the 2nd Admendment already allows that. |
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Post by oneshot on Jul 27, 2013 8:42:37 GMT -5
I agree Timex.
I'm all 4 constitutional carry!
That still does not alter what I said.
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