Shooting pens back agian?

Can't read the article. I haven't subscribed to the Indystar and have run out of my "complimentary" access to their articles.

I'll still click on the site while they provide my daily sudoku without subscribing. When they attempt to get me to pay for that, I'll be deleting the site from my favorites and no longer visiting it. If my clicks on their ad revenue rolls are not enough compensation, they can stuff their anti-gun socialist rag, and good riddance.

Come to think of it, there are plenty of other sources for free sudoku's, and I may not wait.

WRT the subject of the post, I did catch that news from another source. It's too bad that the deer pimps will continue to drag this stuff up repeatedly until they finally get it passed. Then in another few years we will be in the news as the next state to find CWD in our wild herd and the authorities will again be completely at a loss as to how it happened.

In truth, highly regulated high fence operations are not likely to spread CWD any more than the man-in-moon. They don't want disease any more than anyone else. Think about why anyone would soend $10-25, 000 for a breeder buck that was going to die soon and cause them to depopulate their herd. Its fine to disagree with this style of activity but in reality these places are ni longer a threat to the sportsmen. We should be educated about the numerous ways to control known hazards of deer farming and make sure the deer farmers pay the bills for monitoring those issues. Otherwise, these places don't effect us one bit.

Well said Sako!

Canned hunting parallels prostitution, if you aren't capable of getting your gun off using your own merits, then you just pay someone for the experience.

timex, I agree that the shooting pen operators don't WANT to find CWD in their herd, and probably try very hard to NOT import it.

I don't WANT to have an accident when driving, either, and try very hard to avoid one. And I've been successful for many years now.

The problem arises when the unwanted thing that we try to avoid happens anyway.

If the operator has his life savings and the hope for his kids' college education riding on the health of his herd, and discovers one failing with what appears to be CWD symptoms, what are his options?

He can kill it and have it tested, and if it is indeed CWD, have his herd depopulated and his grounds adjudged pretty much worthless well into the future, and make himself liable for the results of having passed on the disease to others.

Or, he could suffer wind damage to a fence on the backside of his place that results in an expensive deer escaping to be lost into the wild. Into an environment that is unregulated and undocumented as to its freedom from CWD, since it's impossible to prove that none exists out there already.

Care to bet on which choice he will take?

And unlike in the analogy to driving, where there is no really no practical alternative in our modern world to using motor vehicles and living with the risks, there IS an alternative to allowing the high-fenced operations in the first place.

We don't permit Crazy Larry to open Crazy Larry's Fireworks Mfg. Co. in that empty building next to the school, even though the denial of a permit does limit the building owner's right to maximize his return on investment from his property.

The rights of the citizens of the state to a healthy environment have to have some weight at some point.

Denial of permitting a business that depends on the importation of antler growing genetic potential and interstate trade in breeders and semen is very much akin to permitting Crazy Larry's plant. Even if his office is in the building, proving that he REALLY doesn't want an accident to happen, it's a risk that doesn't need to be taken, and the potential damages are too high.

As far as we know we have a CWD exposed deer running loose in our wild herd right now - compliments if the deer farmers. How many millions has the Wisconsin DNR spent attempting to eradicate CWD from their wild herd?

It flat ain't worth the chance to have these businesses operating..

i believe that South African Goverment banned them because of really bad tv coverage,certainly the whole hunting buisness has been looked into over there, they have even changed what species one can bow hunt.
powerful thing the media, wink wink

I read that too and thought " what a dumb butt".

This little-known industry has exploded in the past 10 years thanks largely to the ever-growing demand for big-antlered white-tail deer that are sold to high-fence hunting preserves, places where hunters pay up to $25,000 to shoot a monster buck.


This is what is wrong about it,
One they are not hunters and i take offence at them calling themselves hunters.
Two they certainly are not sportsmen.
There is no mention in the article about these animals being kept for scent or anything else.
It is canned hunting for big bucks, and it is a disgrace and an insult to every true hunter, not just in the USA. but everywhere in the world.
That is my opinion and that is what the forum is for so if i have upset anyone then sorry but so be it,
Billy