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Post by DUCKMASTER1 on Feb 7, 2013 17:50:19 GMT -5
OK, I am wanting to get me a pistol for home defense and target shooting, plus I want to teach both of my teenage boys how to use and shoot a pistol. Looking at something I can carry, just applied for my personal protection permit, just need to get printed. But want something to carry when I am out alone on the back roads, home defense and shooting at targets.
Looking at maybe a .40 cal., .45 cal, or 9 mm.
Need some advice, both my boys are big enough to handle a pistol, but not wanting something like dirty Harry had.
Need some advice on your thoughts, likes , dislikes, or suggestions.
Thanks,
Brian
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Post by firstwd on Feb 7, 2013 20:40:27 GMT -5
Honestly, a handgun is like a greatfitting bra. Until you actually get fitted for one (try several and find the one that fits your needs) no advise will do much good.
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Post by dadfsr on Feb 7, 2013 21:16:01 GMT -5
....sooo what does a great fitting bra feel like Rob???
Sorry just had to ask ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by shinglemonkey on Feb 7, 2013 21:50:39 GMT -5
Honestly, a handgun is like a greatfitting bra. Until you actually get fitted for one (try several and find the one that fits your needs) no advise will do much good. THis^^^^^^^ I have had 20+ carry guns. From Glocks to 3k$ custom 1911's. I always end up back with the Glock 19 |
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Post by hunter7x on Feb 7, 2013 22:34:52 GMT -5
Honestly, a handgun is like a greatfitting bra. Until you actually get fitted for one (try several and find the one that fits your needs) no advise will do much good. ummmm I dont know what to say about that comparison, BUT the last line is spot on. and honestly if you are asking these questions, you are far from being comfortable wearing a bra in public OR carrying deadly force in public. buy a good semi auto .22 to teach those boys gun handeling and how to load and general shooting. to answer one of your questions, if I shoot someone with my .45 regardless of WHERE I hit them, they arent going to be moving forward after they are hit. |
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Post by kirch86 on Feb 8, 2013 10:03:29 GMT -5
what I did when I went searching for my first handgun was figure out what was important to me. . . do you want a revolver or a semi auto? If you want semi auto, they have full size, compact, and pocket pistols, the larger the gun the more ammo it will hold. Do you want an external saftey? 9mm is prolly the cheapest in terms of ammo price.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 8, 2013 12:17:03 GMT -5
Yep - No way any of us can answer your question; shoot as many different ones as you can. 9-40-45; with the right ammo there's not much in it for the average civilian.
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Post by esshup on Feb 8, 2013 12:38:07 GMT -5
A good friend is pretty knowledgeable about handguns. He has a point that I'd like to pass on.
For your first handgun, get one that has an external, manual safety. Once you are comfortable shooting it (i.e. learning to take off the safety manually to shoot) you can pick up ANY gun, even during times of stress and be able to shoot it.
If you get used to shooting a handgun that has an "automatic" safety, like the Glocks, Springfields, etc. then you get a gun with a manual safety, you might forget to take it off during times of stress and wonder why it didn't go bang.
Other than that, I completely agree about the statement of getting one that fits you. By saying that, make sure it puts the bullet where you are pointing. Just a grip change can make a difference where the gun shoots.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 8, 2013 20:18:53 GMT -5
....sooo what does a great fitting bra feel like Rob??? Sorry just had to ask ;D ;D ;D ;D No personal experience there, but I have a daughter and was a Girl Scout leader for years. I've heard more stories then I care to admit. Besides, it got this thread rolling and everyone's attention. ;D The point was true and agreed upon it seems, no one can give an answer to which gun is a universal fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 7:12:03 GMT -5
If you want to huy now, its more of picking whats available. And price that you want to spend. Being that your not going to use tbe gun daily as a police officer would, how it fits your hand would not be a bug deal to me. I like multiple bulets when you have a choice. See if you can a EAA with a 14 round magazine. Great pistol at a great price in todays market.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 9, 2013 8:15:24 GMT -5
Yeah, a tough time to be buying - how well you shoot said handgun is paramount. You have to hit.
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Post by kevin1 on Feb 10, 2013 12:48:34 GMT -5
I love both my Ruger LCP(.380 semi), and my Taurus 85 Ultralight(.38 sp revolver), but neither might suit you personally. Only you can decide what's best for you.
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Post by HighCotton on Feb 10, 2013 20:48:39 GMT -5
Well Brian, I have a simple recommendation. Look for a Kahr CM9!
But, you also need to understand that some may not agree with me. I've been ripped for buying a "moonie gun" because the founder is the son of Sun Myung Moon. I considered this before purchasing the gun and decided to give it a try as I liked the fact that they are at least made here in America. I figured that if it could not withstand my "brutal" breakin I would return or sell it.
Suffice to say, I have now shot more rounds through this gun than any other handgun I've ever owned and it has not jammed, misfed, or misfired a single time. If you can part with ~$450 or maybe even less, I think you'll have a very reliable target, home defense, concealed carry handgun for life!
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Post by deerdude on Feb 10, 2013 21:04:50 GMT -5
so many to choose from. try to shoot as many as you can or at least hold them to see how they feel in your hand. I walked in a gun shop with the cash to buy a Glock came out with a s&w m&p compact .love it.
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Post by esshup on Feb 11, 2013 2:44:15 GMT -5
HCG: I bought a CM9 a while back and put the crimson trace on it a couple months ago. I like it even better now. But, if I want something that is really concealable, I can toss this in a pocket:  |
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Post by HighCotton on Feb 11, 2013 6:59:06 GMT -5
I'm not as gun as guns savvy as I should be esshup. What is that? Sure a sweet looking piece.
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Post by esshup on Feb 11, 2013 11:36:17 GMT -5
It's a small .25 acp. Not the best self defense weapon, but it sure beats poking them in the eye with a sharp stick!
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Post by maddog on Feb 11, 2013 12:43:28 GMT -5
As it's been stated, only you can decide. Might add that it's a bad time to buy because of inflated prices on both guns/ammo. Finding the gun is going to be easier than finding the ammo! I might make a suggestion. Regardless of what you buy, you might consider a .22 for training the boys. Ammo is expensive, and you can burn up a lot more ammo for the money. Right now, even .22 is hard to find, but should ease up by summer. I would give serious consideration to 2 handguns. One in .22 and the other in centerfire of your choice. Just a suggestion.
Maddog
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Post by 36fan on Feb 11, 2013 12:45:32 GMT -5
I always prefer to be the bra fitter, as opposed to the bra fittie... Normally I would say go to a gun show and handle all the different models you can, and find one that fits you well. Under current circumstances, you would be lucky to get into a gunshow, options would be limited, and it would be too crowded to learn much. Try to shoot and handle as many handguns as you can, and don't rule out revolvers ... especially for newbies. Of the calibers you listed, 9mm would be the best choice for a newbie. Ammo is much less expensive, which allows you to practice/shoot it more. to answer one of your questions, if I shoot someone with my .45 regardless of WHERE I hit them, they arent going to be moving forward after they are hit. ^don't use this philosophy. Where you hit someone is much more important than what you hit someone with. If you shoot a 9mm well, it has more than enough energy to stop someone. The .25 ACP pictured wouldn't be my first self defense choice, but a couple of center body mass hits with it would do more than a hit or two to an outer extremity (or miss) with a .45 ACP. |
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Post by parrothead on Feb 11, 2013 13:42:06 GMT -5
I would pay attention to ammo price too. Bet those boys will want to do lots of shooten.
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