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Post by Sasquatch on Jan 27, 2013 19:48:41 GMT -5
NOTE: By "sweeping ban" I mean something that hits handguns, semi autos, shotguns, the whole nine yards.
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Post by swilk on Jan 27, 2013 20:02:18 GMT -5
My heart tells me nothing will pass but my head thinks they might be able to do something with background checks.
To those that don't fully "get it" background checks might seem like a good idea but IMO they will create an unnecessary hurdle for law abiding citizens and won't change the habits of criminals at all.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 27, 2013 20:06:34 GMT -5
New Mental health regs will pass .....IMO
Major Background Check changes will happen....IMO
You could only vote ONCE so i didnt vote!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 20:16:06 GMT -5
Looks like there is about 20 Senate Democrats that are not going to support any major gun bans. They might supports minor revisiins abd anything unrelated to gun law changes. Nothing will make it out of the House.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 5:28:29 GMT -5
I also don't believe there will be no additional gun laws passed, due to the fact that it has been proven the existing laws fail miserably. They can pass all the laws restricting firearms to law abiding citizens while criminals will continue to get their hands on them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 6:12:51 GMT -5
This--"the fact that it has been proven the existing laws fail miserably" WILL NOT be the reason these bills will likely fail. It's because of Republican/Tea Senators and Reps. that won't budge on the 2nd Admendment.....because they know they will never win another election if they do. Same with the Democrat block that won't fall in line with Obama and Feinstien on this.
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Post by Sasquatch on Jan 28, 2013 7:40:58 GMT -5
New Mental health regs will pass .....IMO Major Background Check changes will happen....IMO You could only vote ONCE so i didnt vote!!! You could have picked COMBO!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 7:52:34 GMT -5
This--"the fact that it has been proven the existing laws fail miserably" WILL NOT be the reason these bills will likely fail. It's because of Republican/Tea Senators and Reps. that won't budge on the 2nd Admendment.....because they know they will never win another election if they do. Same with the Democrat block that won't fall in line with Obama and Feinstien on this. But yet those anti-second amendment Reps. & Senators, i.e. Feinstine & others, still manage to get re-elected each term, because their voters are more or less misinformed or just plain "Dead Beats" on Welfare. The first gun control law of 1968 should have never seen the light of day, as it is somewhat based on Hittler's Gun Control Act in Germany back in the late 1930's. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 7:55:25 GMT -5
This--"the fact that it has been proven the existing laws fail miserably" WILL NOT be the reason these bills will likely fail. It's because of Republican/Tea Senators and Reps. that won't budge on the 2nd Admendment.....because they know they will never win another election if they do. Same with the Democrat block that won't fall in line with Obama and Feinstien on this. But yet those anti-second amendment Reps. & Senators, i.e. Feinstien & others, still manage to get re-elected each term, because their voters are more or less misinformed or just plain "Dead Beats" on Welfare. The first gun control law of 1968 should have never seen the light of day, as it is somewhat based on Hittler's Gun Control Act in Germany back in the late 1930's. |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 28, 2013 8:08:27 GMT -5
New Mental health regs will pass .....IMO Major Background Check changes will happen....IMO You could only vote ONCE so i didnt vote!!! You could have picked COMBO!!!! That wouldn't have worked either.....Mental health/Back ground Checks only items I see passing!!! No "GUN BANS" have a chance ...IMO |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 28, 2013 8:46:27 GMT -5
Background checks and high cap magazines will pass.
Mental health will be done by executive orders. That wont be good. With the government getting more and more access to medical records so if one had ever been prescribed a tranquilizer for a temporary problem they will be denied a purchase of guns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 9:03:15 GMT -5
Mental health will be done by executive orders. That wont be good. With the government getting more and more access to medical records so if one had ever been prescribed a tranquilizer for a temporary problem they will be denied a purchase of guns. Talked with a friend of mine who is a Physician, and his understanding is concerning patients taking, or HAVE, in the past, been prescribed, Scheduled Drugs like: Anti-depressants, Pain Medication (Controlled types) some Scheduled 1,2,or 3 medication COULD jeopardize ones right to own a firearm. His opinion this will be based on an individual evaluation of the patient. Something like 40% of Americans have or are taking such medications which would take out a huge number of gunowners. NOT GOOD for these folks even if the medication is helping them lead a normal life as opposed to Drug Addicts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 9:04:10 GMT -5
Currently, you have to adjudicated in a court of law as mentally distrubed before your denied a the right to buy a firearm. They will face a up hill battle to amend that, and it can't be done by EO. If it is, it won't stand long. Obama wants to ad thousands to the mentally ill list, even a lot of vets that have claimed PTS problems just to collect benifits. I don't see any GOP people agreeing to let doctors declare someone not able to own a gun.
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Post by Boilermaker on Jan 28, 2013 9:17:33 GMT -5
I've got a bad feeling that they will pass a little bit of everything. Gun bans, magazine bans & mental health laws. These gun-grabbin commies are going for the throats of law-abiding citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 9:36:08 GMT -5
I've got a bad feeling that they will pass a little bit of everything. Gun bans, magazine bans & mental health laws. These gun-grabbin commies are going for the throats of law-abiding citizens. Also heard something that if someone has a drunk driving conviction this may also be used against a legal gunowner too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 10:10:00 GMT -5
None of these things will make it out of the House, and most won't make it out of the Senate.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 28, 2013 12:53:13 GMT -5
I expect a compromise position that includes some restrictions in each area, watered down sufficiently to get enough votes, will pass.
It SHOULDN'T, but probably will.
My confidence level on any legislation that would actually be beneficial passing is extremely low.
And there is probably no need for federal action on legislation that would be really effective. The states are already implementing the actions they see as the most effective, and in several that includes arming teachers or school personnel who volunteer for additional training for school-specific carry and storage of arms. This is the better solution to the problem, as it is better tailored to the conditions and needs of each state, by the people of that state, than being forced to apply the same provisions to the two-room schools in rural North Dakota that would apply to mega-schools in Newark, New Jersey.
But the political pressure to cave will be high.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 13:34:59 GMT -5
That pressure will only come from 50% of the people, if that. Even Obama realizes that, so does Dirty Harry. He knows the AWB won't pass. Want to make a change, round up goofy looking people like these  |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jan 29, 2013 7:26:22 GMT -5
Background checks for sure!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 7:35:26 GMT -5
Congress cant pass a budget. Expanded background checks will cost $$mega-millions$$. To pay for it, they will have to find the money. Most likely, the push will be to TAX the gun buyers, which will not pass both houses. Grid lock continues on
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