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Post by Nathan Lee on Aug 11, 2012 14:03:10 GMT -5
Does anyone know the new regulations on hunter orange being on ground blinds? I was wanting to build a couple wooden blinds for one of our hunting spots but I heard rumors that you would need a ridiculous amount of orange on them. If that's the case ill just stay nestled in the fence row. I'm sorry if this question has already been answered but i have searched for the answer and couldn't find it.
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Post by kirch86 on Aug 11, 2012 14:13:16 GMT -5
144 square inches inches per side
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Post by tenring on Aug 11, 2012 15:52:44 GMT -5
I heard does not count, and why is it so ridiculous? What's so hard about making sure that no one shoots in your direction?  |
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Post by lugnutz on Aug 11, 2012 18:16:59 GMT -5
I think it serves a purpose, but why not regulate the amount of orange you wear as well?
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Post by budfields on Aug 11, 2012 18:42:46 GMT -5
A 12" X 12" piece of Hunter Orange material will be seen a pretty long distance.. I really don't mind the new regulation but I hate showing other hunters where I hunt... I used to do that same thing with a piece of Hunter Orange fabric on the back of the tree I was hunting. I have entered the woods in the afternoon and had strangers helping themself to my stands until I "asked" them to leave..
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 11, 2012 19:38:29 GMT -5
312 IAC 9-1-7.6 "Ground blind" defined
Authority: IC 14-10-2-4; IC 14-22-2-6
Affected: IC 14-22
Sec. 7.6. "Ground blind" means a structure or visual screen of any type that is located on or within four (4) feet of the ground that includes manmade or synthetic materials and results in concealing a hunter so that the hunter orange worn by the hunter may not be visible from one (1) or more directions.
312 IAC 9-3-2 General requirements and licenses for hunting deer
(t) A ground blind that is:
(1) Occupied must contain a minimum of one hundred forty-four (144) square inches of material on each side that is solid hunter orange and is visible from any direction during:
(A) a season set forth in section 4(b), 4(e), 4(f), and 4(h) of this rule; and
(B) that portion of the archery season set forth in section 4(c) of this rule that overlaps a season set forth in section 4(e), 4(f), and 4(h) of this rule.
(2) Left unoccupied on department property must visibly bear the name and address of the owner written in the English language in a conspicuous location on the outside of the blind near the entrance.
312 IAC 9-3-4 Season dates and bag limits
Authority: IC 14-10-2-4; IC 14-22-2-6
Affected: IC 14-22
Sec. 4.
(b) The special youth deer season is two (2) consecutive days beginning on the Saturday immediately before October 1 or as approved annually by the director.
(c) The archery deer season is from October 1 through the first Sunday in January. An individual must take not more than two (2) deer of which only one (1) may be antlered under this subsection.
(e) The firearms deer season is from the first Saturday after November 11 and continues for an additional fifteen (15) days. An individual must take not more than one (1) antlered deer under this subsection.
(f) The deer hunting season for only using a muzzleloading long gun or muzzleloading handgun is from the first Saturday after the closing day of firearms season as established in subsection (e) and continues for an additional fifteen (15) days. An individual must not take more than one (1) deer of either sex under this subsection.
(h) The special antlerless deer season is from December 26 through the first Sunday in January of the following year in counties with an antlerless quota of four (4) or more deer. An individual may take only antlerless deer under this subsection and may take only the number established under subsection (g) for the county being hunted.
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Post by tenring on Aug 11, 2012 22:07:51 GMT -5
"Occupied must contain a minimum of one hundred forty-four (144) square inches of material on each side that is solid hunter orange and is visible from any direction" Those squares of HO on my blind are held on securely with Velcro. I can erect and secure the blind way before the season starts with the 4 squares removed and placed inside of the blind. They can be placed back on before the sun comes up in just a minute or two. blind-n-site.com/ |
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Post by sakorifle on Aug 12, 2012 3:54:49 GMT -5
I am reading this ruling woody and i find it quite ridiculous, so as i am reading it i could take my saw , make a blind which would almost certainly be in a hedge or something similar, which if the job is done properly is almost invisible, and no orange on it.
Then if i put a hide up in the open i have to have orange on it?
Over here there is no such rule,in the forest were i work everyone else except me(because i have the rifle) is supposed t wear a blaze yellow vest, it does make a big difference on those restocks, it means i can see folk over half a mile away when using my binoculars.
Anything that makes the sport safe is a good thing, Better going hunting covered in orange getting nothing and coming home to family in the evening than going out in pure cammo getting deer and not coming home.
It is just a pity it is necessary at all
regards
Billy
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Post by billybobteeth on Aug 12, 2012 14:23:05 GMT -5
I heard does not count, and why is it so ridiculous? What's so hard about making sure that no one shoots in your direction? Because its just more governmental intrusions and one more check mark for less freedom in this overbearing law crazed country!!!!! These type laws should always be a personal choice just like motor cycle helmet and seat belt laws !! Or better yest telling people when and where they can go or being frisked at the airport over a quarter in your pocket or watching your daughter or wife being felt up by some TSA thug because your family is going on vacation because "she" is profiled by having a rocking body and wearing shorts and a tank top!! Sort of like letting or expecting or 18 year old kids to fight and die in combat for this country and oil but not allowing them to buy a hand gun or drink a beer !! Ridiculous is not the best description of these laws and governmental intrusions we all are living with in our personal lives today .Its only gonna get worse before "WE ALL" make it better one day . |
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 12, 2012 14:33:59 GMT -5
I am reading this ruling woody and i find it quite ridiculous, so as i am reading it i could take my saw , make a blind which would almost certainly be in a hedge or something similar, which if the job is done properly is almost invisible, and no orange on it. Then if i put a hide up in the open i have to have orange on it? Over here there is no such rule,in the forest were i work everyone else except me(because i have the rifle) is supposed t wear a blaze yellow vest, it does make a big difference on those restocks, it means i can see folk over half a mile away when using my binoculars. Anything that makes the sport safe is a good thing, Better going hunting covered in orange getting nothing and coming home to family in the evening than going out in pure cammo getting deer and not coming home. It is just a pity it is necessary at all regards Billy Blinds/hides made out of the materials at hand in the woods are AOK. It is the ones made out of "manmade or synthetic materials" that require the orange. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 12, 2012 14:43:47 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation..
I say any bike rider can go without a helmet if they will sign a waiver that when their head goes bouncing across the highway and they end up a vegetable that we do not have to support him and his family. he enjoyed his freedom" of not wearing a helmet, we should enjoy our "freedom" of not having to pay for his "freedom".
Same with seats belts. You think it is just for the occupant and he/she should decide. Wrong. A lot of deaths and injuries are the result of multiple vehicle collisions. If vehicle "A" is hit by vehicle "B" and vehicle "A"s driver/passengers are not wearing a seats belt he/she will be bounced from behind the steering wheel to the passenger side OR the passenger will be bounced into the driver's side. Either way the operator of vehicle "A" will no longer be able to have any control of that vehicle. An out of control vehicle can impact various other vehicles and maybe even pedestrians.
Innocents die because of that person thinking they should have the freedom to choose to not wear a seats belt.
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Post by billybobteeth on Aug 12, 2012 14:49:13 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation.. I say any bike rider can go without a helmet if they will sign a waiver that when their head goes bouncing across the highway and they end up a vegetable that we do not have to support him and his family. he enjoyed his freedom" of not wearing a helmet, we should enjoy our "freedom" of not having to pay for his "freedom". Same with seats belts. You think it is just for the occupant and he/she should decide. Wrong. A lot of deaths and injuries are the result of multiple vehicle collisions. If vehicle "A" is hit by vehicle "B" and vehicle "A"s driver/passengers are not wearing a seats belt he/she will be bounced from behind the steering wheel to the passenger side OR the passenger will be bounced into the driver's side. Either way the operator of vehicle "A" will no longer be able to have any control of that vehicle. An out of control vehicle can impact various other vehicles and maybe even pedestrians. It is exactly the same thing if a hunter is that concerned about being shot while in a blind they currently can hang as much orange on the thing that they want !! And when a car is hit that hard its going to be out of control anyways !! I think there are too many laws and thats it I'm not alone in that thinking .Secondly if anyone wants to wear a helmet or seat belt they are there .. All these things should be a choice we all consciously make instead of forcing people to do the bidding of the whining leftest socialistic agenda minded people of this world. Our founding fathers of this country would not be happy with us at all now !! |
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Post by steiny on Aug 12, 2012 14:59:44 GMT -5
Dumb new law, and very unecessary.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 12, 2012 15:04:09 GMT -5
BBT... It went over your head.
Your right or "freedom" to swing your fist stops where my nose begins. If your freedom impacts mine or my family's safety then yes it needs to be regulated.
It does not take much of a bump by another car to get an unbelted driver out from behind the wheel or a passnger in the lap of the driver. The second collision can be horrendous in an oncoming lane. Just ask any first responders on here.
No, I do not want to support a vegetable or his family just because he wanted the "freedom" of the wind in his hair.
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Post by firstwd on Aug 12, 2012 16:06:57 GMT -5
I think it serves a purpose, but why not regulate the amount of orange you wear as well? It has been regulated since hunter orangw first began to be required. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 12, 2012 16:27:07 GMT -5
I think it serves a purpose, but why not regulate the amount of orange you wear as well? It has been regulated since hunter orangw first began to be required. I agree and personally I don't think just a hat or cap is enough. It is just too easy for that small of of an item to be obscured by a limb, branch, tree or bush. I've hunted Ky, IL and the Indiana park hunts with a cap and vest and did not feel handicapped at all. |
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Post by billybobteeth on Aug 12, 2012 20:55:28 GMT -5
BBT... It went over your head. Your right or "freedom" to swing your fist stops where my nose begins. If your freedom impacts mine or my family's safety then yes it needs to be regulated. It does not take much of a bump by another car to get an unbelted driver out from behind the wheel or a passenger in the lap of the driver. The second collision can be horrendous in an oncoming lane. Just ask any first responders on here. No, I do not want to support a vegetable or his family just because he wanted the "freedom" of the wind in his hair. LOL how many vegetables do you or I support  None we support more health lazy indivduals who bilk the entire system , or illegal aliens and the kids they deliver here ! My point is that there are some people that want laws on laws and they can all hide and be all safe and sound behind these laws until something happens that busts right through that law and devistates a human life . We can make all the laws we want but because some people either don't care or they don't think about their own safety they will still be careless and or brain dead and hurt or kill them selves or others all the laws in the world will never stop that . But nonsense safety fronted laws are just infringement on the lives of those who wish to choose for themselves and those who weigh the odds on their own for what they should or should not do . But this is all a moot point the liberals who hide behind the what is safe and good for everyone crowd here in this state have yet another law that has driven yet another nail in the free thinking individuals of this state who were and are capable of sentient thought of their own and the safety of others who will take the steps needed to not kill someone or get killed .. The next step after someone gets shot in a ground blind will be to outlaw ground blinds all together or thier use here then what all the happy little leftists and anti hunters win again .Then what more regulation on something else.This is the mind set today and at some point there needs to be some room for people to think for themselves and be responsible for thier own actions without big brother pushing thier own brand of enforcement on them this all reminds me of the Russian of old and thier laws "comform on your own or be conformed" ! . |
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Post by swilk on Aug 13, 2012 8:09:07 GMT -5
I don't see the correlation.. I say any bike rider can go without a helmet if they will sign a waiver that when their head goes bouncing across the highway and they end up a vegetable that we do not have to support him and his family. he enjoyed his freedom" of not wearing a helmet, we should enjoy our "freedom" of not having to pay for his "freedom". Same with seats belts. You think it is just for the occupant and he/she should decide. Wrong. A lot of deaths and injuries are the result of multiple vehicle collisions. If vehicle "A" is hit by vehicle "B" and vehicle "A"s driver/passengers are not wearing a seats belt he/she will be bounced from behind the steering wheel to the passenger side OR the passenger will be bounced into the driver's side. Either way the operator of vehicle "A" will no longer be able to have any control of that vehicle. An out of control vehicle can impact various other vehicles and maybe even pedestrians. Innocents die because of that person thinking they should have the freedom to choose to not wear a seats belt. Im not sure I have ever disagreed with a post more than this one. |
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Post by omegahunter on Aug 13, 2012 8:36:08 GMT -5
Elevate four feet or more and don't use orange or keep it on the ground and you do have to use it.
I don't agree with it, but I have to abide by it while it is still on the books.
How many hunters have been documented as being shot while in a ground blind anyway?
I would hazard a guess that there are far more documented falls from treestands!
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Post by tenring on Aug 13, 2012 8:58:46 GMT -5
And if strict regulations are put into effect on safety harnesses for tree stands, could you imagine out cry? Let the tissue buying begin!
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None we support more health lazy indivduals who bilk the entire system , or illegal aliens and the kids they deliver here ! 
