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Post by span870 on Mar 11, 2012 19:14:53 GMT -5
I know that the 358 hoosier is based off the 358 winchester case. What would I need to do if I found a rifle chambered in the 358 winchester? Any mods needed or will it feed the hoosier. Sorry if this is a stupid question.
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Post by danf on Mar 11, 2012 19:28:32 GMT -5
It won't work without being re-worked by a gunsmith. I'm not entirely sure on the differences between the two, but at a minimum the barrel would need to be removed, cut at the chamber end to set it back and then re-threaded and re-installed. Depending on differences in shoulder angle a reamer may need to be run into the chamber as well. The action and bolt would definitely still be good though. If you find a .358 Win, I'd seriously consider having a barrel custom chambered for that action and have a 'smith swap the barrels.
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Post by span870 on Mar 11, 2012 19:48:05 GMT -5
Thanks Danf for the answer. I've been looking at having E.R. Shaw build me a rifle. Seen he will build one in a 358 winchester and was hoping it would have been good to go. Sorry I have no understanding what you are talking about but looks like its a no go. Makes no sense to spend the money to have him build one just to get back to the point I'm already at. Having to send mine off to have it rebuilt. Guess too good to be true.
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Post by danf on Mar 11, 2012 21:49:55 GMT -5
Basically since both of the .358's headspace off of the shoulder, the Hoosier will slip inside of the Winchester chamber, but that's as far as the compatibility will go. You won't be able to fire the Hoosier because it will be too far into the chamber. Even if you somehow managed to fire it, you'd run a severe risk of the brass case separating as it expands to fit the Wincheser chamber.
If both cases were rimmed, like a .30/30 is, then you'd be able to fire the Hoosier in the Winchester, but accuracy would likely be less than stellar.
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Post by span870 on Mar 12, 2012 5:29:48 GMT -5
Got it. Thanks.
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Post by omegahunter on Mar 12, 2012 7:03:49 GMT -5
Depending on how cheap you can pick up the .358 Win, it might make the perfect donor rifle for a custom barrel for the .358 Hoosier.
Cost would be the donor rifle, .358 Hoosier barrel and having the custom barrel installed. Then comes the custom .358 Hoosier dies. The rest is same component costs involved with loading for any cartridge.
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Post by hankhunter on Mar 12, 2012 7:10:57 GMT -5
There are some guys shooting a short neck 358 win in their rifles with good results. I've read some reports of 2500fps/w 200g bullets and one minute accuracy. I have no personal experience with the 358 win but I do with the 35 rem, 45-70, and 450 marlin. All shoot well with the short neck.
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Post by esshup on Mar 12, 2012 12:36:29 GMT -5
If you can find a Savage, you'd be able to switch barrels yourself without a lot of hassle.
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Post by lon371 on Mar 12, 2012 18:33:35 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Mar 12, 2012 18:51:11 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info guys. Don't look like its going to work out either way. Shaw got back to me today and the turn around time to build the rifle is 14 months. Why I don't know but i'm not waiting that long for a new toy. Looks like i'll be talking to Brown at the next gun show. Shaw makes some beautiful rifles and prices are not that bad but that turn around is ridiculous. Hes building on the savage action too. Not a full custom.
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Post by esshup on Mar 13, 2012 0:10:25 GMT -5
Buy the rifle, and talk to Penny at Pac-Nor barrels. 12-14 week wait for the barrel, but after you get it you can do everything yourself. If you match the barrel contour of the new barrel to the old one, you have to do minimal to zero stock work. If you want to go that route, I can talk you thru screwing on a new tube. You can do it in 1/2 hr.
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