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Post by sharp1 on Feb 20, 2012 20:42:21 GMT -5
Hey guys wondering what everyone recommends for a do all shotgun (budget minded) best all around bang for your buck. Rabbit, Dove, Turkey, and possible waterfowl. New or Used. Would really like an Auto-loader but at the same time would like to stay under, $500 anyone familiar with the Stoeger 2000, I've read Love/Hate things about it. Open to other ideas too. Thanks, in advance.
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Post by steiny on Feb 20, 2012 21:11:52 GMT -5
Hard to beat a Rem 870, but there are advantages to an autoloader, particularlly if you ever want to shoot sporting clays or waterfowl. I like the Rem 11-87, but it will run closer to $700 unless you can find a bargain used one.
Can't speak intelligently about the Stoegers.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 20, 2012 21:26:49 GMT -5
Yea I knew I would get the Rem's as suggestions, they are tried and true. Do you have any experiance with the Benelli Nova's?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 22:11:30 GMT -5
Try a H & R Pardner. It's perfect for the OBR guys.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 20, 2012 22:50:35 GMT -5
Try a H & R Pardner. It's perfect for the OBR guys. So you like the Pardner and the OBR? Not sure why telling me that you like the OBR has to do with this but....Thanks for sharing |
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Post by Boilermaker on Feb 21, 2012 8:33:50 GMT -5
Don't know much on the Stoeger but here lately I've found for the money you can't beat an 11-87; picked up a nice used one for just over $400. Plus you can always find chokes, barrells and anything else for a Remington about anywhere; something to think about if you want an all purpose shotgun.
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Post by swilk on Feb 21, 2012 8:59:40 GMT -5
I have an 1187 and would not recommend it to anyone. In fact I have had several of them in the past and still bought another even though I swore I would never make that mistake again. Every one of them has been finicky on what shells it will cycle.
IMO autoloaders are one of those areas where it takes a good bit of money to get a reliable one that will cycle anything you throw at it. Not a huge deal if you are only using it for turkey hunting and only shooing a single 3.5 inch shell at a time ..... becomes a really huge deal if you try to use it for duck hunting or dove hunting where you are asking it to continually cycle shells.
If you really want a "do it all" shotgun and dont want to spend big money on an auto-loader I would stick with a pump. Remington or Mossberg makes about as good a pump as you will find.
If you decide to up the $$ and get a high end auto I would personally suggest the Winchester SX3.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 21, 2012 9:22:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies guys, anyone familiar with the Mossberg 535 ATS, my girlfriends dad won one Saturday at the DU banquet and I thought it looked pretty sharp, Dick's has a camo combo of it right now with 28" field and 22" turkey barrel, for $389. To bad I couldn't win that Versa Max or Extrema2 they gave away. Haha
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Post by dadfsr on Feb 21, 2012 9:30:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies guys, anyone familiar with the Mossberg 535 ATS, my girlfriends dad won one Saturday at the DU banquet and I thought it looked pretty sharp, Dick's has a camo combo of it right now with 28" field and 22" turkey barrel, for $389. To bad I couldn't win that Versa Max or Extrema2 they gave away. Haha Not with the 535 but I bought a "plain Jane" 835 Ultra Mag with both barrels a few years ago that taken all but one of my turkeys, many hundreds of clay birds and what ever else has needed taken out. It's been a very good and dependable gun for everything I've put it through. I think I only paid about $450 for it when I got it so it's been a few years ago.... |
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Post by Boilermaker on Feb 21, 2012 9:33:42 GMT -5
The 835 is a workhorse! Sounds like the 535 is a pretty good deal as well; does Mossberg have any type of warranty?
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Post by swilk on Feb 21, 2012 9:36:14 GMT -5
The Mossberg 500/535/835 are like the Ford trucks of pump shotguns and the Remington 870 is like the Chevrolet.
Both are tough as nails. Both will have loyal followers that swear by one and swear at the other. Cant go wrong with either one.
I have a Mossberg 500 that has been with me for the past 20 years and a 870 Wingmaster that has been in the family since before I was born.
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Post by daneowner on Feb 21, 2012 9:48:04 GMT -5
Sharp1, For a "DO ALL" shotgun, if buying new, or used, you might look for a combo, One that comes with a field barrel for the small game & a Rifled slug barrel for deer. A one barrel gun, no matter what make or action (pump or auto) wouldn't be a good choice for an all purpose gun (just my opinion). For all purpose, you'll probably want the longer field barrel, not the shorter one that is mainly for turkey only.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 21, 2012 10:06:25 GMT -5
Sharp1, For a "DO ALL" shotgun, if buying new, or used, you might look for a combo, One that comes with a field barrel for the small game & a Rifled slug barrel for deer. A one barrel gun, no matter what make or action (pump or auto) wouldn't be a good choice for an all purpose gun (just my opinion). For all purpose, you'll probably want the longer field barrel, not the shorter one that is mainly for turkey only. Well I really don't need another gun for deer. I have a couple .44's and also a TC MZ this would be more for turkey dove rabbit and possible waterfowl. I've owned a 500 before and never had any complaints other than the forend was a little loose but no biggie. At the moment I don't own a shotgun, and I won an AR at the banquet so I sold it since I already have one so I could get a shotgun and possible another rifle. Just trying to build the arsenal back up. |
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 21, 2012 10:11:01 GMT -5
So far I've narrowed it down to either used 870 used 887, used Nova or the new 535 combo.
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Post by Boilermaker on Feb 21, 2012 10:33:13 GMT -5
887 are good guns, had one and just sold it to buy my 11-87. i've heard a few of the 887's have a problem with a part malfunctioning inside the slide assembly where you'll pump the gun and the bolt won't come back forward; i never had a problem with mine but my friend's currently dealing with that issue. the gunsmith said it's an easy fix and he doesn't know how it happens because they are built 10 times heavier than an 870 on the inside. i know you said you don't need another deer gun but you can now buy a slug barrell for the 887.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 21, 2012 11:01:13 GMT -5
Boilermaker i read some if the same stuff that you mentioned witj the slide locking up didnt sound like a lot of people had that problem but a few, I can get a like new, used 887 DU for just under $300. How did you like yours?
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Post by swilk on Feb 21, 2012 11:07:58 GMT -5
Curious as to why a person would choose a 887 with apparently known problems over the 870 which has been pretty much bullet proof for the last 60 years.
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Post by sharp1 on Feb 21, 2012 11:16:53 GMT -5
Cause it's like anything else, you can find where people have had problems with anything down the road somewhere. Ya know, also the decision hasn't been made. Just exploring options. I'm also the type that doesn't always like to have the norm.
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Post by Boilermaker on Feb 21, 2012 11:24:02 GMT -5
I hear ya there; the top of the line stuff will always find someone who can tear it up!
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Post by swilk on Feb 21, 2012 11:24:53 GMT -5
I guess I did buy an 1187 ... 3 times.
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