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Post by joen on Jan 11, 2012 23:23:14 GMT -5
Smokeless Muzzleloading Inc. Has developed a new deer getter a 460 weatherby necked down to a 358 that shoots a 180 grain pill at over 3000 fps it is called the 358 D and R you can contact them at 765 998 7320 or 765 348 5897
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Post by fullrut on Jan 11, 2012 23:40:51 GMT -5
That sounds awesome!
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 12, 2012 3:08:02 GMT -5
Well; that ought to be enough gun!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 6:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 12, 2012 7:22:20 GMT -5
Way too long for IN. It's like 2.9".
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Post by oldhoyt on Jan 12, 2012 7:51:44 GMT -5
The parent case is 2.9 or so. But have they cut it down to 1.8? The case has a larger diameter at the base than WSSM cases, by about 0.030".
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Post by joen on Jan 12, 2012 10:11:04 GMT -5
I think they dut it .005 shorter so if any stretching the spent case wont be stretched out past 1.8 if a co would happen to have a set of mics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 10:23:22 GMT -5
So, I guess it would take a large action to handle the .378 Weatherby case head dia.. Most of those are really long for such a short round
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Post by hornharvester on Jan 12, 2012 10:36:00 GMT -5
Joe,
Factory brass for that dude is expensive, 79.99 for 20 and thats not counting modifying. How much for a loaded round? What frame they using? h.h.
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Post by joen on Jan 12, 2012 22:03:42 GMT -5
Ruger #1 frame as far as rounds they will sell the brass ready to load. Dad said they may try a bolt gun later on. he has shot some .75" groups at 100 yards but he was only gettin 2985 fps with that load.
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Post by esshup on Jan 12, 2012 22:25:07 GMT -5
.338 Lapua case has durn near the same base dia.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jan 13, 2012 9:08:45 GMT -5
If the CO has mics, he can measure a loaded round. The spent case and the chamber dimensions have nothing to do with the regs. The regs apply to the loaded round only.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 13, 2012 9:39:03 GMT -5
Nope - it applies to the case length, not overall loaded round length. Even states that in the hunting guides.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jan 13, 2012 13:53:07 GMT -5
No kidding.
I should have said the CO could measure the case of a loaded round. The regs don't apply to fired cases. The regs apply to the ammunition used.
And if a CO wrote a ticket because the stretch between an unfired legal case and a fired case put it over the legal limit by say 0.005, I'd hope the judge would have the sense to toss it out.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 13, 2012 14:06:20 GMT -5
Yep - it would be a good idea to trim just a little shorter to allow for that.
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Post by oldhoyt on Jan 13, 2012 14:16:05 GMT -5
The regs allow for the loaded case to be exactly 1.800". It is a known fact that cases stretch a few thousandths upon firing. IMO, there's no need to worry about this. I know I won't.
Now, it is common reloading practice to trim to the lower limit of the case length tolerance when cases are trimmed. I don't know what the lower limit for the 358 Hoosier is yet, but this may allow a few reloads before the resized cases would exceed the 1.800" limit, and would need to be trimmed again.
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