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Post by parson on Dec 6, 2011 9:04:28 GMT -5
In light of the the increased case length for 2012, I'm thinking about picking up a .358 Win. barrel for my Savage. This round is basically a .308 necked up to .358. My rifle is currently a .243, so the bolt should work fine.
After trimming there wouldn't be a lot of neck left, but with a concentricity gauge this shouldn't be a problem.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 6, 2011 10:15:38 GMT -5
Have to get dbd on this one.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 6, 2011 11:21:56 GMT -5
To make it legal you have .150 left to seat and crimp a bullet. Not much for a bullet that long plus the bullet to the lands would be very long and that might take away you accuracy. Unless you crimp or shoot it as a single shot pulling bullets in the mag would be another problem. I think I would look at a different setup. h.h.
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Post by parson on Dec 6, 2011 12:22:53 GMT -5
Yep, the neck would be short, but I was looking at the 44-357 Bain & Davis, which is shot in revolvers, and that's about the same length neck. That's what got me to wondering if it might work.
I would likely shoot it as a single shot. Although I don't know what impact, if any, recoil would have on bullets in a box mag.
Loading it close to standard .358 oal should get it fairly close to lands- I think. If standard .358 loading places the bullet at the base of the neck then this should be true.
I don't currently have .358 brass, so I'm trying to think this through by tinkering with my .308.
Savage barrel kits, with wrench and go/no go gauges, can be had for around $200. This would allow me to shoot a pretty potent, Indiana legal round, with minimal investment- IF it is workable.
Looking for all the input I can get. I appreciate all thoughts and ideas.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 6, 2011 13:34:01 GMT -5
If you get the barrel and a sized case I will put on the barrel and head space the barrel for you real cheap. h.h.
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Post by parson on Dec 6, 2011 15:58:45 GMT -5
Appreciate the offer hh. I'm scouring some forums, hoping to find someone who has done this.
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Post by oldhoyt on Dec 6, 2011 17:06:59 GMT -5
There is a wildcat called the 358 Hoosier. Not exactly what you are talking about. If you have to buy a barrel anyway, it may make sense to get a new barrel with the chamber cut for the round you are shooting.
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Post by parson on Dec 6, 2011 18:13:58 GMT -5
Appreciate the input, oldhoyt.
If I go with the 358 win. That is the round that I would be shooting, cases would just have the neck shortened to make them Indiana legal. Also, I would only need to buy standard .358 dies and could size up my .308 cases to use.
I'm thinking that this would be far less expenditure than going with a wildcat round.
From what I have been able to find so far, the only potential problem would be with the .15" neck. I think that I'll cut down a .308 neck to that length, or maybe a tad shorter since the diameter is less, and see if there is adequate tension.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 6, 2011 20:35:16 GMT -5
To make it legal you have .150 left to seat and crimp a bullet. Not much for a bullet that long plus the bullet to the lands would be very long and that might take away you accuracy. Unless you crimp or shoot it as a single shot pulling bullets in the mag would be another problem. I think I would look at a different setup. h.h. I'm inclined to agree. |
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Post by boman on Dec 6, 2011 22:44:33 GMT -5
Appreciate the input, oldhoyt. If I go with the 358 win. That is the round that I would be shooting, cases would just have the neck shortened to make them Indiana legal. Also, I would only need to buy standard .358 dies and could size up my .308 cases to use. I'm thinking that this would be far less expenditure than going with a wildcat round. From what I have been able to find so far, the only potential problem would be with the .15" neck. I think that I'll cut down a .308 neck to that length, or maybe a tad shorter since the diameter is less, and see if there is adequate tension. parson, there's a thread on the 358 hoosier on this forum and it is a custom/wildcat ctg. It has the shoulder pushed back so you will need custom dies or a way to grind a standard die shorter. Steve |
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