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Post by deerhunter23 on Nov 5, 2011 11:30:35 GMT -5
I'm new to shooting muzzle loaders and recently picked up one from a buddy to hunt with this year. I'm needing some help with what powder and rounds shoot best. I know each guns differs just needing some suggestions..I'm gonna attach a pic of the box the gun came in with the make and model and help is much needed. I won't get a chance to shoot it til prolly the Thursday before gun opener like to be able to buy what I need site it in and be ready to go..thanks!! If the pic doesn't attach I will just write out what's on the box! Attachments:
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Post by huntingman on Nov 5, 2011 15:31:55 GMT -5
I would get some winchester 209 primers, a box of triple 7 pellets and some powerbelts or hornday SST's. to start out with.
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Post by brushbuck on Nov 6, 2011 12:42:10 GMT -5
winchester or CCi 209n primers will work, powerbelt ,sst , barnes or tc shock waves pick a grain I like 250 grain bullets myself. The tc shock waves. should be able to get a good group
out of any of these. I would stick with triple 7 pellets to start (2) or a 100 grains for this year.
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Post by brushbuck on Nov 6, 2011 12:43:12 GMT -5
time=1320601330]winchester or CCi 209n primers will work, powerbelt ,sst , barnes or tc shock waves pick a grain I like 250 grain bullets myself. The tc shock waves. should be able to get a good group
out of any of these. I would stick with triple 7 pellets to start (2) or a 100 grains for this year. make sure you get 50 grain pellets they also come in 30 grains
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 7, 2011 16:03:49 GMT -5
I recommend what works for me. Pyrodex loose powder, Hornady FPB bullets (like PowerBelts but better in my opinion). Try 90 and 100 grain charges.
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Post by jordanffemt on Nov 7, 2011 23:37:49 GMT -5
triple 7 primmers an pellets 100gr total "2" pellets with tc shock waves 250gr makes my CVA Accura a tack driver. an tc make wet patches, that having cleaner on them , an dry patches. i run an wet an dry patch after every shot. an with a muzzeloader it does make a differance. not only after a shot or 3 it becomes very hard to ram a bullet down the barrel your groups will change also.
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 10, 2011 11:28:52 GMT -5
Id steer clear of powerbelts.
shockwaves are good bullets ( I use the yellow tipped 250 gr), group great in my gun with 2 50gr pyrodex pellets and are absolutely lethal.
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Post by 45smokepole on Nov 19, 2011 7:12:31 GMT -5
triple 7 primmers an pellets 100gr total "2" pellets with tc shock waves 250gr makes my CVA Accura a tack driver. an tc make wet patches, that having cleaner on them , an dry patches. i run an wet an dry patch after every shot. an with a muzzeloader it does make a differance. not only after a shot or 3 it becomes very hard to ram a bullet down the barrel your groups will change also. No need for patching, using blackhorn 209 powder. I have shot up to 60 times at the range without patching or losing the same POI. never understood the pellets most guns will shoot better with a odd ball charge, not in 50 gr. Increments. Mine will shoot cloverleafs at 100yds. With 110 gr. And 4" groups with 100gr. |
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 19, 2011 9:03:03 GMT -5
If I wasnt shooting a Savage smokeless muzzleloader I would be using Blackhorn 209. h.h.
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Post by jordanffemt on Nov 20, 2011 16:17:43 GMT -5
triple 7 primmers an pellets 100gr total "2" pellets with tc shock waves 250gr makes my CVA Accura a tack driver. an tc make wet patches, that having cleaner on them , an dry patches. i run an wet an dry patch after every shot. an with a muzzeloader it does make a differance. not only after a shot or 3 it becomes very hard to ram a bullet down the barrel your groups will change also. No need for patching, using blackhorn 209 powder. I have shot up to 60 times at the range without patching or losing the same POI. never understood the pellets most guns will shoot better with a odd ball charge, not in 50 gr. Increments. Mine will shoot cloverleafs at 100yds. With 110 gr. And 4" groups with 100gr. Interesting. might try a lil change up next year. Id still use the patches though it works good for me |
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Post by jordanffemt on Nov 20, 2011 16:20:22 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet being seated higher or lower in the barrel make a differance in the grouping?
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Post by 45smokepole on Nov 20, 2011 22:30:18 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet being seated higher or lower in the barrel make a differance in the grouping? I am not sure, i guess it could be. i just alays assumed it was the difference in velocity. I promise, if you try BH209 you will never use anything else, again!! No crud ring, cleans with regular gun cleaners ( I use Hoppes) and in the 60 shot string at the range the last shot loaded as easy if not easier than the first. But, i was always a loose powder guy. some use the pellets for convinience, i buy tubes from a guy on another forum, they are great to use as speedloaders and i can load as quick as a buddy that uses pellets. I have convinced him to switch to the BH209 next year. There is a thread on here about buying it for 27 a jug, that is the cheapest, i have ever found it and just ordered more from that guy, he is up to 29 now. but, thats cheaper than i can buy it locally and don't have to buy gas to go get it. |
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Post by sharbsx3 on Dec 5, 2011 11:41:20 GMT -5
100 grains of BH209 with 185 grain hornady xtp and black mmp sabots
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 6, 2011 10:26:15 GMT -5
777 209 primers, 100 gr. 777 pellets, Hornady 50 cal. 300 gr. XTP (hollow point). Usually drops em where they stand. Breaks bones with massive internal organ damage.
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