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Post by hoosier on Dec 17, 2010 19:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by huxbux on Dec 17, 2010 19:38:01 GMT -5
I shoot .50 caliber roundballs in front of 90 grains of FFF. Deadly accurate and I've never failed to kill a deer I've shot with that load.
My CVA Hawken is 1:48 and I shoot 1 MOA with that load.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 17, 2010 22:38:18 GMT -5
Just curious but can you still shoot round balls outa todays inlines? I'd love to get a box and some patches, but hate to screw my gun up in the process! lol
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Post by old3arrows on Dec 18, 2010 5:51:54 GMT -5
Lug you can shoot em without any adverse affects, but accuracy will probably be poor due to the faster twist ratios in the newer guns. The breaking point started with the old TC Hawkens and Renegades with the 1:48 twist that was designed to shoot either round balls or conical lead bullets. My 50 caliber flints are all much slower 1:66 and designed to shoot round balls. The newer inlines without hitting the books are at least a 1:24 twist.
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Post by parson on Dec 18, 2010 7:23:13 GMT -5
I was gonna hunt with my CVA Mountain Rifle this year but I haven't gotten out during the muzzleloader season. It shoots great with .490 ball, pillow ticking patch and 80 grains Pyrodex.
It has accounted for a bit of venison over the years.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 18, 2010 7:44:12 GMT -5
I bought my first black powder gun a T/C .50 Hawkens back in 1975. I paid $168.00 new. I shot both conicals and round ball using FF Dupont. This gun accounted for my first deer using a round ball I molded myself. The shot was with open sights and the deer was standing about 50 yards straight at me. I shot her right at the base of the neck and she dropped at the shot. When I butchered her the round ball had flattened out to the size of a quarter. I sold that gun in the early 80's and often wished I hadn't. h.h.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 18, 2010 7:55:14 GMT -5
I've still got my T/C Hawken. Sweet gun..but I have not used it in years..
I always shot the Maxiballs. It is a deer killer...
May have to try it again some day.
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Post by daviesshunter on Dec 18, 2010 8:41:04 GMT -5
Started out with ball & patch when I got my first muzzy. It was deadly accurate and probably the best shooting gun combo I've had the pleasure to shoot/hunt with.
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Post by kodiak50 on Dec 18, 2010 8:52:58 GMT -5
Had a .45 cal. T/C Hawken back in the early 70's loaded with 80grs. FF and a patched round ball, it did the job on a couple deer. Graduated to a .50 cal. Renegade and Maxi balls and 100grs FF and hunted with it until inlines came out. Wish i still had em.
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Post by steve46511 on Dec 18, 2010 9:41:40 GMT -5
My .54 Renegade tis loaded as I type this with the same ol, same old 90 grains of Goex FFg and a 540gr Maxi Hunter, just like it has been every year since 1983 (unless I couldnt find the 540 and used the "lighter" ones) and what took down the doe I shot with it earlier.
6 yard "tracking" job. What worked 20 or more years ago, still does if we do our part. I'm older than they are and I still "work" LOL!
As soon as I get one in the crosshairs (missed a buck with iron sights.......sigh), I'll find out if it still works. (maybe) LOL!
Never used a round ball but a brother of my buddy, in his 70s now....always has and still does. Depends on how far you think you will shoot I guess? He's got two in the IN record book. Must work.
I'd not be afraid to take a round ball out with my Renegade stoked with 110 grains of Goex. 90 percent of my ML shots are less than 75 yards, about half of that number less than 50 and a quarter of them in bow range. Doe was 10 yards, maybe 12.
Reminded me of swatting a fly with a baseball bat.
God Bless Steve
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 18, 2010 12:25:39 GMT -5
I also had a H&R Huntsman .58 that I shot round ball in. It had a scope and is the only gun I ever owned that put a half moon on my forehead. I hadn't shot the gun in a while and forgot how much it kicked until I touched it off and my glasses went flying. Next thing i know i feel a trickle of warm stuff sliding down my face. The scope made a nice smiley face on my forehead. Sold that gun too and wish i hadn't. h.h.
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Post by nimrodder on Dec 18, 2010 12:52:08 GMT -5
I still shoot black powder in all my inlines. I love the smoke and smell of Swiss 3F powder when it lights off .
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Post by patfinley on Dec 18, 2010 19:44:11 GMT -5
I still have my 54 cal renegade. Took me forever tofigure out the dual trigger thing lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 20:13:12 GMT -5
I used to shoot two round balls on top of each other. They would hit about 6" apart at 100 yards. Killed deer ok, but the big chunky buffalo bullets did better.
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Post by firehawk1 on Dec 30, 2010 20:18:56 GMT -5
I bought my first black powder gun a T/C .50 Hawkens back in 1975. I paid $168.00 new. I shot both conicals and round ball using FF Dupont. This gun accounted for my first deer using a round ball I molded myself. The shot was with open sights and the deer was standing about 50 yards straight at me. I shot her right at the base of the neck and she dropped at the shot. When I butchered her the round ball had flattened out to the size of a quarter. I sold that gun in the early 80's and often wished I hadn't. h.h. From what I've always been told/read NOTHING hits harder than a roundball. SPLAT! ;D
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Post by HuntMeister on Dec 30, 2010 20:58:44 GMT -5
I have many fond memories of deer hunting with my built by me T/C Hawken 50 cal. I think I was 12 yrs old when Dad got he & I the kits. We shot the maxis out of them. I still have mine and it is one of those guns I have that I will never part with...probably hand it down to the son or daughter one day though.
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Post by dsayer on Jan 2, 2011 16:18:39 GMT -5
I have a Cabelas Hawken-style and shot patch and ball until a few years ago when I started hunting hunting elk. I'm moving from Colorado to Indiana this summer though, so I might switch back. Always had really good luck shooting whitetails in Nebraska when I lived there. Plus they're way cheaper to shoot...
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Post by Russ Koon on Aug 29, 2011 12:26:07 GMT -5
HH, I started out with a one-off custom Tennessee "poor boy" style flinter with a full-length Douglas barrel and a Siler lock and set trigger. That thing sure shot sweet. I got all torqued off with it when fighting ignition problems eventually, and traded it for my first compound bow. Porbably was a poor trade, looking back.
Still have the next ML I owned, a Hunstman .58 like you had.
It accounted for all my ML deer until the last one. Shot most everything I stuffed down it well except the one time I tried to train it to shoot 300 gr. Hornady .44's with sabots. It liked the 240 gr. ones just fine and shot them very well, but wouldn't stabilize the 300 gr. ones no matter what I did in load changes. Guess it was just too much weight to take the rifling, 'cause they'd start tumbling right out of the barrel and half of them left telltale shapes in the target that said they were hitting it completely sideways, when I managed to hit it at all.
Finally completely wore out the main spring, and haven't replaced it yet. Sorta fell in love with the "temporary"replacement, a fairly cheap CVA that likes Powerbelts, so now I go out with the cheap modern stuff, but it works REAL good.
Still kinda miss the thump that old .58 gave me when I touched her off, though. Use to hunt mostly with some locally cast Minies, hollow base hollow points that weighed 505 gr., and 140 gr. of 2F. Always shot open sights with it back then, so never got my forehead decoration.
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Post by hookeye on Aug 29, 2011 23:51:25 GMT -5
My gun is a sidehammer
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Aug 30, 2011 8:47:32 GMT -5
I still hunt with BP and PRB; T/C .50 Hawkin. Matter of fact I shoot it regularly at my Clubs BP matches.
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