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Post by old3arrows on Dec 8, 2010 15:14:07 GMT -5
Had to put tires on ole blue today cause i been puttin' it off way too long and the snow has been a flyin'! I went to Sears like I normally would for Goodyear 16" Wranglers. The qoute $1150.00 for four tires! Apparently some tarriff has went in to affect that caused the price of rubber goods to go up 30 to 40%.
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Post by indianahick on Dec 8, 2010 15:17:54 GMT -5
Those are 1080 at tire barn. Priced them last night. Wanted Wild Country but they do not make them in my trucks size.
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Post by wileyonetoo on Dec 8, 2010 15:23:36 GMT -5
I buy everything from Discount Tire. Have never had issues.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Dec 8, 2010 15:28:41 GMT -5
I buy from Discount Tire Direct. Same as the store but you order online. Same low prices but you'll pay no sales tax and shipping is free. They show up on your door then I have installed at Wally World.
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Post by parrothead on Dec 8, 2010 15:33:04 GMT -5
There use to be a guy in Columbus all tires 25 mounted and balanced. He had a deal with the salvage yards. They were low milage tires off the wrecked cars.
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Post by chicobrownbear on Dec 9, 2010 6:45:57 GMT -5
Wow, that's considerably more than I saw last summer when I was in the market.
Have you guys noticed that a ton of online stores are now charging sales tax for Indiana addresses?
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Post by huxbux on Dec 9, 2010 6:49:06 GMT -5
Wow, that's considerably more than I saw last summer when I was in the market. Have you guys noticed that a ton of online stores are now charging sales tax for Indiana addresses? Yes. and I won't do business with them.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Dec 9, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Not tires, but I noticed BPS charged me sales tax the other day. If remember correctly Cabelas has for some time but I didn't think BP did. I haven't ordered from them for a year or so though.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Dec 9, 2010 9:08:50 GMT -5
Not tires, but I noticed BPS charged me sales tax the other day. If remember correctly Cabelas has for some time but I didn't think BP did. I haven't ordered from them for a year or so though. BPS & Cabelas does this because they have retail stores now in Indiana. If you lived in Kentucky and placed an order online you would not be charged sales tax as they have no stores in the state. Believe me, the gov't knows they're losing tons of tax money. I'm this sure this will ALL end soon enough.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 9, 2010 9:33:57 GMT -5
You do realize that you're legally obligated to declare those purchases and pay that tax, don't you?
The fact that some places collect it for the state and some don't doesn't change your tax status. The fact that you knowingly avoid paying your taxes does change your legal status, though, and might change your address as well, if you're caught.
Don't agree with the tax? I can sympathize with that. I have had a strong disagreement with income and property raxes for a couple of generations now. I pay them because I'd probably be the unlucky cheat to end up in jail if I didn't, and because it would still be the same as stealing from my fellow citizens who do pay them if I somehow avoided prosecution.
If there's some honest and logical reason that this particular form of tax cheating is legally or morally different from the others, I must have missed it. Maybe someone could clue me in.
From where I stand it looks to be the same, except that you can be sure that the other citizens you're stealing from are your fellow Hoosier taxpayers and the businesses that you're punishing for collecting the sales taxes are mostly Hoosier businesses, and those mail order places that are NOT facilitating tax cheating by refusing to collect the tax at purchase.
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Post by tenring on Dec 9, 2010 9:49:59 GMT -5
Really?
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Post by swilk on Dec 9, 2010 9:55:54 GMT -5
You can bet that the tax collection process will catch up with Internet sales sooner rather than later.
While i wont jump up my soapbox like Russ .... be is basically right. I dont really feel bad though.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 9, 2010 10:33:30 GMT -5
The new tire tarfiff increase, by the way, has nothing to do with whether the tire dealer collects the IN sales tax.
The increase is in the tariff on Chinese made tires imported here. It's a change in the tariff that is legal under the international trade agreements as an optional temporary remedy for a trade imbalance surge that threatens an American industry. Chinese tire imports have surged from 6 percent of the market to 20 percent, and Obama decided that the tariff increase should be invoked. May have something to do with the union's support of protective tariffs and also of liberal Democrats.
Buying tires made somewhere other than China would seem to be an option, but prices for most domestically manufactured tires have risen similarly, as the domestic companies try to recoup the losses they were suffering from the Chinese competition.
By the way, I just bought a set of tires for the wife's minivan from Rural King, a couple of months ago, and am so far very happy with them. Caught them on sale. Kelly Navigator Gold Touring, made in the USA, mounted and balanced with new stems for $306, including the sales tax.
They aren't truck tires, just 215/70 all-esason tires to fit the Montana, but thought I'd mention them while we're talking tires, as they seem to be an excellent value. Wet grip and traction are great, the ride is silent and smooth, and they're a 70,000 mile tire. Both the wife and I had occasion to climb on the brakes pretty hard a couple times on our recent trip to Detroit to visit the kids, and I was really surprised at the wet traction on that cold and rainy trip. No problems at all so far with the tires or the mounting and balancing job. Just thought I'd pass on a positive recommendation for a product and service that seems to deserve it.
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Post by swilk on Dec 9, 2010 10:38:57 GMT -5
I did a google on the tire tariff as well but it came back as going into effect over a year ago. I put tires on my wifes Tahoe this past summer and they had actually gone down in price from when I put a set on it in 2006.
Bridgestone Dueler's ..... guess they dont come from China.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 9, 2010 11:01:45 GMT -5
Soapbox? .....well, OK, I guess I did get sort of jacked up there. I was cocked and primed by a few more of those TV ads last night for the tax services that are staffed by "former IRS employees" who are peddling their expertise at using the sloppy and ineffective techniques they applied during their careers providing us with leaky collection of the public's money, to now counsel other tax cheats in the ways to beat the system and let the honest taxpayers pick up their part of the tab.
Makes me want to set the dude's beard on fire.
We need the Fairtax. Do it all with a national sales tax with no taxes on owning stuff or earning stuff. One percentage for everyone on everything, goods and services. Would put us all in the harness pulling the wagon, ihstead of just the honest working guys pulling and the rest riding. Would also put the American manufacturer on a much more level playing field with his foreign competition.
I'm in the position finally to benefit from the current system, but I still would like to see a much more efficient, fair, and honest system in place.
Oh well, off the soapbox and back to the woods for a while.
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Post by swilk on Dec 9, 2010 11:06:25 GMT -5
Fairtax ... yes. Which method could be debated .... income or sales. I would settle for either one.
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Post by raporter on Dec 9, 2010 11:27:41 GMT -5
So Russ you saying you don't like Patrick Cox? ;D All of those jerks get to me.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 9, 2010 12:41:27 GMT -5
Fairtax ... yes. Which method could be debated .... income or sales. I would settle for either one. I strongly vote sales for one simplistic reason. Honest, hard working Americans would be paying the same as all the illeagals, all the legal non tax paying workers, the drug dealers, and the prostitutes pay. If you don't want to pay a national sales tax, don't buy that new TV or car every few years.
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Post by swilk on Dec 9, 2010 12:47:13 GMT -5
A very good reason ..... there are equally good reasons to go with an income tax.
Not considering the problem of those who would get paid under the table and therefore not pay taxes .... an income tax would take a percentage of every dollar every person made. That seems the fairest to me personally.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 9, 2010 13:06:40 GMT -5
A very good reason ..... there are equally good reasons to go with an income tax. Not considering the problem of those who would get paid under the table and therefore not pay taxes .... an income tax would take a percentage of every dollar every person made. That seems the fairest to me personally. Yeah, it would work if EVERY PERSON gave a percentage, but they don't do they? We are fast approaching the 50% mark where they do not pay any taxes at all.
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