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Post by parson on Jan 6, 2007 9:07:02 GMT -5
Hey all,
58 years old, never turkey hunted, but everyone who does seems to love it. So, I think I'll try to work it in the schedule come spring.
What are the basics that you would reccomend as for as equipment and "how to"?
parson
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Post by danf on Jan 6, 2007 11:11:12 GMT -5
First thing you need is patience!!!
It took me over 10 years before I killed my first tom, but that was off-and-on hunting.
Buy some calls and learn to make reasonable sounds.
Theres more, but I've got a hungry 8 month-old right now! ;D
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Post by gobblerfreak on Jan 6, 2007 12:00:55 GMT -5
Welcome to the ADDICTION!!! After you're first hunt if You're not hooked, its probably not for you.
One of the first things I'd recommend doing is gettin yer hands on a couple turkey hunting videos. Watch em and get an idea of how to set up, listen to the calling, pay attention to the cadence used. Like Danf said get yourself a few calls, and practice, practice, practice!! I would recommend maybe a box call, a couple "pot" style calls maybe 1 slate and 1 glass, push pin calls are some of the easiest to learn so maybe a couple of them as well. I wouldn't jump off the deep end with calls yet. Just get a few and learn the basic techniques. Then after you have the cadence down, maybe try a mouth call or 2. These are more difficult and may take a few before you find one that works with the shape of you're mouth. These aren't for everyone but if you can learn to use em they'll free up your hands when that big ol'tom comes struttin in. I have found the Primos "Sonic Dome" series mouth calls are the easiest to use. Also a couple locater calls never hurts, just pick from Owl calls (usually work better for roosting birds), crow calls (crows and turkeys aren't the best of friends and usually a gobbler will sound off at the sound of a crow), Red Tail Hawk, coyote, the list goes on and on. Usually the locater calls that work will vary from place to place.
Next a decoy or 2 can sometimes make or break a hunt, usually a good rule of thumb is if a tom docent see the bird he hears, he wont come, this isn't always the case however.
A good Turkey vest isn't a necessity, but it can make carrying all you're calls, decoys, bug spray, water bottle etc. out into the field a lot easier. Most also have a foam padded seat that flips down and allows ya a dry, soft place to set while you try and call that long beard in.
One of the most important items is you're camo! Turkeys have excellent eyesight (as well as hearing, its sometimes said that if they could smell, you'd never even see one!!) When you are turkey hunting you need to be covered head to toe, (shirt-jacket, pants, face mask, gloves, hat as well as boots). Avoid shiny buckles, and snaps when choosing these items. Always remember a turkey can see a million times better than you so if you see it he definitely will.
You also need to have a good shotgun and a load and choke that work well together. ALWAYS pattern you're gun, make sure you know you're limitations with the load you choose.
I think this will get ya started, just keep a few things in the back of you're mind about turkey hunting: 1) Nothing works every time, turkeys are the most unpredictable critters you'll ever hunt. 2) Some of the worst callers in the woods are real hens, you dont need to be a "Championship caller" to kill birds 3) Be patient, and be prepared to have you're butt handed to ya on a regular basis! Thats what makes it so fun!!!
Good Luck Buddie, Enjoy Yourself and the wonder that is "The Spring Woods"!
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Post by parson on Jan 6, 2007 12:12:45 GMT -5
I appreciate the feedback. The place that I deer hunt, near Scottsburg, has a lot of Turkey, I've actually had them walk up on me while deer hunting.
I'll work on the things mentioned. Having been a pastor for 27 years, I've learned a little about patience, but it seems that there is a lot more to learn.
Of course, if it is as addictive as people say, that could be another whole set of problems.
Thanks again, and keep the tips coming. parson.
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Post by bsutravis on Jan 7, 2007 2:45:46 GMT -5
Parson... having them walk up to ya during deer season just isn't the same as having a gobbler with it's head glowing white as he gobbles over and over again as he struts back and forth. Your heart will be pounding away for sure as you work your first gobbler! Gobblerfreak gave some great advice to you! The main thing I think with turkey hunting is that beginners just can't even begin to realize how keen the turkey's eyesight is. The little movements that you can get away with while hunting deer will get you busted quick when turkey hunting! Even watching the turkey videos aren't good at teaching how still you must be, since they all show "cut away" video of the hunters calling and moving around AFTER the kill has already been made. A lot of time those movements shown are faster than what was made in reality. In other words you gotta be still, and make your movements when the gobbler is facing away from you.
Hunting near Scottsburg will give you plenty of birds so you should have good action. Keep asking questions.....plenty of good gobbler hunters on here to give sound advice! Hope ya get hooked on turkey hunting, it's a blast!!!
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Post by parson on Jan 9, 2007 7:47:11 GMT -5
What about guns? My only shotgun, at present, is a Win. Sipreme O/U.I can put full choke tubes in both barrels, or do you really need the special turkey chokes? Also, is there a temporary fix to hide the shiny finish? I don't really want to camo this particular gun. Thanks, parson
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 9, 2007 7:55:29 GMT -5
When they get close enough to hear the "spit drum" then you'll be absolutely hooked . Seeing the look on Dan's face when he got his last spring was well worth the 10 year wait. There is just something about being in the springtime woods at 0400 and watching the woods come alive that will renew your soul way before you ever worry about losing sleep.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 9, 2007 8:34:54 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about an over and under it sounds too much like a "pretty" gun to me. I'm not knocking your gun I'm sure it's a fine gun but if you've got the money for a new gun but don't want to spend a big bundle I'd just go for an 870 or something in the same price range. I use an 870 with a 3" chamber it has removeable chokes so if you see a choke you like you can usually find one that will fit, as far as chokes go I like the Primos "Tight Wad" I use 3" turkey loads from winchester there are 2 types one comes in a grey box with red shells and one comes in a black box with black shells. I know that the black ones are marketed for better perfomance and all but I got a better grouping at 30 - 40 yards with the red shells and they cost less. Good luck!
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Post by gobblerfreak on Jan 9, 2007 10:21:31 GMT -5
Parson, You got yourself one mean turkey killin machine there in that O/U. You could actually research (shoot / pattern) several different loads and chokes and find which one performs close and which one performs best way out there. Then use a different load choke combo on each barrel! One for up close and the other to knock em out of the park!! Best of both worlds!! I have heard of tons of guys doing this. In-fact Browning just came out with a new fully camoed O/U that is taking the Turkey hunting world by storm. As for chokes, some lead loads do like factory full/extra full/super full chokes while other loads like Hevi-Shot tend to like the after market "Turkey Chokes" best. This is what I mean by patterning. Find yourself a few guys with the same brand gun as your's, try their chokes out, as well as maybe a choke or 2 of you're own. Then throw different loads into the mix till you find what works the best. This can be a somewhat expensive endeavor, however once you find the right combo its well worth it. You could also go to the NWTF website WWW.NWTF.com and look under the Shotguns forum and ask the members what choke / loads tend to work best in yer particular gun. Trust me theres page after page, after page of gun/choke/load tests on there to read! Much cheaper this way!! As for the shiny gun, simply run down to Wal-Mart, Meijer, or yer local sporting goods store and purchase a gun sock, or there is also camo tape which can be used to cover the gun, this isn't like the old camo tape where once the gun gets wet its ruined. This stuff is vinyl and resists water, wont leave yer barrel/receiver rusty, doesn't leave a sticky/gummy residue once its removed. look for this stuff in Cabelas catalogs or at yer local sporting goods store. Or if yer crafty enough go to the local fabric store and pick up some camo fabric, a little velcro and maybe some elastic and a camo cover can be made with little effort and expense. Hope this has helped answer some of yer questions.
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Post by parson on Jan 9, 2007 11:24:58 GMT -5
I really appreciate all the pointers. You're right, ahawkeye, this is a "pretty gun". I picked it up with hope of getting back into quail hunting. I had an 870, sold it to Shinglemonkey a while back. Looks like I may have found a really good reason to buy a new firearm! Of course, I have to run it past the "boss". After almost 40 years of her putting up with me, I guess that's the least I coud do. I'll keep reading all the tips, maybe pick up a video or 2, and perhaps I'll be a little more knowledgable by the time season arrives. I'll also check out the NWTF site. parson
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Post by jstalljon on Jan 9, 2007 11:47:27 GMT -5
Parson, this spring will be my 4th season so I'm still fairly new at this game too.
Here's how I got started:
First and foremost...Do your homework! Find out where the birds are, what fields they are using, what are their travel routes, where they are roosting, etc. This becomes all the more critical as season approaches. I learned this the hard way. I just wandered around my woods happenstance the first year. I was calling way to much before season.....busting birds off the roost in the evening trying to find a spot to set up, etc. It was ugly! So do your homework and form a gameplan prior to season.
As far as a gun, I have a Mossberg 500 that came with a full choke. I tried several rounds through it until I found one that patterned well at 30-40 yards. (I knew I wouldn't take a shot outside that). I didn't need an expensive or multiple chokes to accomplish this. I wouldn't mind a gun more assimilated for turkey...but this one does just fine.
Next, I invested in a slate call and borrowed some videos....practice, practice, practice. I would actually call in the house while watching turkey hunting shows too. (NOTE: I'd recommend the wife not be around for this one.) After I felt comfortable with that I bought a mouth call, and keep it in the truck at all times to practice!
Head to toe camo is important and staying still is critical! So after you have your birds located and patterned, gun dialed in, your calling somewhat confident, and the clothes ready. Set up opening morning, be still, be patient, and have fun!
The thing I personally find most enjoyable about turkey hunting is the direct interaction between you and the birds that often takes place. You may have a tom that comes in hushed mouth, but more times than not you'll have a bird consistantly firing back at you. VERY EXCITING.
I hunted these critters HARD for my first two years, and never quite closed the deal, but they were great learning experiences. This past season I knew where the birds were, but opening morning I got to the woods late, hit my slate call twice, had a tom come off the roost and run to my set up at 12 yards! BANG..... My season was over in 15 minutes. So never discount a little luck on your side either! Enjoy!
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