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Post by huhwhatdeer on Sept 21, 2010 15:43:28 GMT -5
I have a question... for general hunting including deer hunting.... my gf wants to go hunting with me ... basically she just wants to spend time with me outdoors... she doesnt want to carry a weapon. does she have to have a license also? just to follow me around ? thanks for any info
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Post by throbak on Sept 21, 2010 16:17:22 GMT -5
spend 24.00 on the little lovley and dont worrie about it
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Post by INDeerhunter on Sept 21, 2010 16:49:13 GMT -5
You wont have an issue as long as she isnt holding the weapon, but you should go ahead and get her a tag after she goes a time or two with you and sees a deer within range she will more than likely want to take a shot at one, or atleast thats how it started with my wife. Ever since the first time she walked in the woods with me 9 yrs ago opening weekend of bowseason she has been hooked ! we had her a bow b4 the end of that October and she was shooting almost everyday LOL, still to this day she is my best hunting buddy ! She is stoked about this season, she definitely has the "fever" and I bet after you take your gf she will have it too !! Good Luck
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Post by huxbux on Sept 21, 2010 20:07:28 GMT -5
Anyone who helps (in any way) with the taking of a deer, must have a license. It does not matter whether or not they are in possession of a firearm or a bow. I imagine you'd be okay with most CO's, but keep in mind that the law is open to interpretation. This is one of those "gray areas" I don't care for.
I was once informed that my 8 year old grandson could not sit with me and retrieve doves I had shot unless he had a license.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 21, 2010 20:45:52 GMT -5
Safer to have the license. We have people join us on waterfowl hunts and they can't even touch a decoy or "could" be charged with "hunting without a license".
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Post by throbak on Sept 22, 2010 5:38:46 GMT -5
STUPID STUPID but non compliance will still get you ARRESTED ARRESTED
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Post by jabba on Sept 22, 2010 7:36:00 GMT -5
I got harassed once when I stopped along a road to help a buddy track a wounded deer. It was raining so I left my fanny pack, with my lifetime license in the truck. The CO told me I had to have my license on me to "Participate" in the hunt in any way. He let me go get it... but said that I should carry it at ALL times, gun or not.
Jabba
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Post by omegabl on Sept 22, 2010 9:18:58 GMT -5
My best advice to anyone concerning rule and reg interpretation:
First, get to know your CO's
Second, ask them their interpretation, it is the ONLY one that counts, because they will be the ones writing a citation.
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Post by huntingchick19 on Sept 22, 2010 12:07:33 GMT -5
man spend 24.00 on a lisence then 200 on a rifle. Like I've allways heard take her hunting feed her for a day. Teach her to hunt feed her for a lifetime.
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Post by firstwd on Sept 22, 2010 12:31:46 GMT -5
That is just plain stupid that someone along on a hunt who is not the hunter has to have a license, this is just another way for the state to get your hard earned cash. I guess the next time you all shoot some game or catch a fish you had better get your wives or girlfriends or moms a license or she might get fined because some nosy CO comes along and smells dinner cooking, cooking the meat is part of the process... STUPID STUPID Rules Have you been hunting long? Is it possible that you have had an encounter with one of our fine CO's that did not turn out pleasurable or positive for you? It seems that a good number of your posts involve "nosy CO" or some other comment to that effect. I'm just wondering. Like all aspects of life, there are bad apples in every bunch. From the nearly 100 or so ICO's that I have had personal dealings with in my life, I can confidently say that those bad apples are exceedingly rare within their ranks. I am not disagreeing that some rules that are in place are not a bit on the silly side. Then again, one must look beyond their own circumstances and interject that rule over the entire State and all circumstances. There is a process to have certain rules examined- we are in the middle of it with the deer regulations. Maybe it is time to go through the entire wildlife law book and re-examine and possibly update every thing. |
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Post by INDeerhunter on Sept 22, 2010 20:40:34 GMT -5
 firstwd ! I agree with you on the "bad apple" example. I have never had an issue with any of the ICO's I have ran into but usually when I run into one hunting or fishing I go ahead and get out my tags and licenses prior to being asked lol ! They are just doing their jobs and sometimes if they are being "nosy" or even rude its prolly becuz of the guys that they dealt with before gettin to me lol. I try to give the respect to them that I hope to recieve in return. I feel like police and CO's dont get the recognition and respect that they deserve most of the time, I also agree that some of the rules and regs we have in place here in Indiana could defintiely use some updating and clarification, but thats just my opinion ! Good luck to all of you this season, I cant wait to see pics of this years deer harvest ! |
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Post by huhwhatdeer on Sept 22, 2010 20:46:16 GMT -5
well she lives in ky and i in indiana. thats why i was concerned with it. it would cost alot more than i want to spend on it... i know in fishing. as long as she is not in control of a fishing pole or net she is fine . ive had more than one CO tell me that... now i guess my option is to contact the CO's about this. i know in missouri like you all said as i know in dove hunting ( i was in this situation) that i cannot search or attempt to retrieve a downed bird. but i could sit there with my dad on a bucket and chit chat. but this is indiana thats why i was getting opinions... i greatly appreciate all info and comments provided by you fellow sportsman of indiana and maybe other states. thankyou very much
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Post by tickman1961 on Sept 23, 2010 9:52:43 GMT -5
Insanity is correct, makes me wonder if someone helping drag a deer out of the woods needs a license? These rules do nothing to increase the numbers of hunters and do more harm than good.
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Post by huxbux on Sept 23, 2010 18:04:54 GMT -5
I agree Tickman. A lot of the regs really need to scrutinized a little more closely as to their necessity. In the meantime, we need to keep in mind that the C.O.'s don't write the laws, but they are obligated to enforce them.
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Post by Shelby County Switchback on Sept 24, 2010 10:49:34 GMT -5
Yep, the CO in your area is the only one that can clarify that one for you. They are the one in charge of writing the ticket and they may interpret it differently from the rest of us...
Better safe than sorry.
I have a buddy that wanted to sit near me and video the hunt... We didn't take a chance and went ahead and got him a tag. This way there is no question. He won't have a weapon of any kind but we did not wish to run into a problem...
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Post by buster on Sept 24, 2010 12:17:38 GMT -5
Yup, we're all nosy buttholes. Just ask anyone whose gotten a ticket from us. They'll tell ya their 'version' of the story about how they were tricked into violating the law or how we twisted the interpretation of the law to write a ticket because we were having a bad day. Bad apples, all of us........  And we're expected to have a bright smile on our faces after reading posts on the hundreds of forums that badmouth and trash-talk the nosy, over-zealous CO's that are out to get everyone? The majority of those who talk trash about us have either been on the receiving end of a deserved ticket/trip to jail, or are fearful of being on the receiving end of a ticket or trip to jail. But I suppose that you'd rather have your local Officer be like......."Well, Johnny, I guess I'll let you go again this time. I know your starving kids are home asleep in their beds and they really need the meat from this deer to fill their empty little bellies. I'll go ahead a let you keep your .30-06 and nightvision scope too since you lost your job last year. Hate to bring hardship on anyone, ya know? Here, let me help you drag that buck across the fence and out onto the road so you don't rut up the field or get your truck stuck. Maybe I'll stop by in the morning and help you cut it up. Might as well fill out a road-kill permit for you just in case you get stopped by someone else on the way home." ? Nope, I would bet that a slight majority would prefer us to keep doing what we do. |
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Post by INDeerhunter on Sept 24, 2010 12:36:01 GMT -5
Well Buster I hope that the comments I posted on here earlier didnt come across as disrespectful or rude that wasnt the way I intended it to. Like I said before I have never had an issue with any ICO's in the 17 yrs I have been hunting and fishing. I try to give respect, be courteous, and cordial with everyone I meet, including co's or any other type of law enforcement ! again like I said before I think the co's and police get a bad wrap and dont get the respect they deserve, IMO u all are just doing your jobs, you dont wirte the law but u have to enforce them. I guess I shouldnt have used the "bad apple" reference but I think there are "bad apples" in everything, just like there are some that hunt every year ! I dont like to be categorized as a unethical hunter just becuz there are some out there and I am sure you dont want to be stereotyped as a "bad CO" just becuz someone might have ran into one before ! I would have to agree that 99% of ppl that say the CO caused them problems or misinterrupted the law were at fault themselves or they misinterrupted the law themselves ! Im glad for ppl like you out there in the woods catching law breaking hunters and fisherman, I cant stand a poacher ! SO I apologize if I came across as being rude or disrespectful, I hope you continue to give out tickets for rules and regs being broken and leave with a smile on your face for stoppin a poacher or unethical hunter or fisherman ! ~ Jeremy
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Post by tenring on Sept 24, 2010 13:20:44 GMT -5
Yup, we're all nosy buttholes. Just ask anyone whose gotten a ticket from us. They'll tell ya their 'version' of the story about how they were tricked into violating the law or how we twisted the interpretation of the law to write a ticket because we were having a bad day. Bad apples, all of us........ And we're expected to have a bright smile on our faces after reading posts on the hundreds of forums that badmouth and trash-talk the nosy, over-zealous CO's that are out to get everyone? The majority of those who talk trash about us have either been on the receiving end of a deserved ticket/trip to jail, or are fearful of being on the receiving end of a ticket or trip to jail. But I suppose that you'd rather have your local Officer be like......."Well, Johnny, I guess I'll let you go again this time. I know your starving kids are home asleep in their beds and they really need the meat from this deer to fill their empty little bellies. I'll go ahead a let you keep your .30-06 and nightvision scope too since you lost your job last year. Hate to bring hardship on anyone, ya know? Here, let me help you drag that buck across the fence and out onto the road so you don't rut up the field or get your truck stuck. Maybe I'll stop by in the morning and help you cut it up. Might as well fill out a road-kill permit for you just in case you get stopped by someone else on the way home." ? Nope, I would bet that a slight majority would prefer us to keep doing what we do. Now that there's funny, I don't care who you are! If some of the CO bashers that show up from time to time would spend some time volunteering at some of the DNR sponsered events, you might find out that most of them are a decent bunch of folk, they just dress funny. I spent two days at the Hoosier Outdoor Experience last weekend, and the only time I worried about them getting in my way was when Nancy's kitchen opened. Get there ahead of them or there won't be much left to eat! |
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Post by buster on Sept 24, 2010 15:16:25 GMT -5
I'm not offended at all. Matter of fact, I kinda enjoyed my little rant! Although all the whining and crying about guys getting railroaded by CO's on these forums is amusing, it gets monotonous and the same old excuses get pretty old, pretty quick.....
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Post by INDeerhunter on Sept 24, 2010 18:27:16 GMT -5
I no longer hunt with my uncle becuz he has become one of those unethical, law breaking, poachers that I have issues with ! He used to be a great hunter/fisherman, and I looked up to him alot, he taught me alot about the outdoors and hunting in general, but after he started hunting with a new group of guys he changed !
I have heard stories about him poaching but never had any proof ! Then a few yrs ago I caught wind of him taking a nice buck after he had already killed a smaller buck during archery season and I tipped the DNR about it ! He was investigated and recieved a fine but not much came out of it.
He had the nerve to say the CO " Was out to get me since he never killed a buck that big " and said the DNR " aint nothing but money hungry, trying to stick it to hunters that have lifetime licenses" ! I think he should lose his lifetime license and in the future if I ever find out he is poaching or breaking the law I wont hesitate to turn him in again !
If you cant hunt or fish by following the law you shouldnt be able to hunt or fish period IMO ! But its just that my opinion !! Just wanted to share that lil piece of info lol !
~ INDeerhunter ~
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