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Post by js2397 on Jul 11, 2010 8:59:03 GMT -5
I think the harvest will drop more than 25,000 deer during the 2011 season if the proposed rules pass.
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Post by deerman1 on Jul 11, 2010 9:05:42 GMT -5
I think the harvest will drop more than 25,000 deer during the 2011 season if the proposed rules pass. I posted the by the numbers thread and yes it will or should drop how much is only a guess but There is no way unless the DNR "lies" about the numbers that we will shoot more with less days afield .And yip I said LIE! They raised the antlerless quotas in half the counties again this year in hopes of killing more deer and they will kill more than last season maybe even 135 ,000 or 140,000 deer total but under the new plan watch the crash come!! Especially if the take goes up from last season like I think it will. I still call 100,000 to 115,000 deer total first year or there abouts.
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Post by swilk on Jul 11, 2010 9:43:06 GMT -5
Can't answer given the choices available. Reduced versus what year? 2010 that hasn't happened yet? 2009? Before then?
I think kill numbers will be consistent versus recent years and very possibly slightly higher....not lower.
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Post by tenring on Jul 11, 2010 10:11:37 GMT -5
I'm taking into the account, the economy, which is tanking big time.
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Post by drs on Jul 11, 2010 11:15:26 GMT -5
I'm taking into the account, the economy, which is tanking big time. Which might lead to more poaching.
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Post by bschwein on Jul 11, 2010 12:06:59 GMT -5
I voted under however I don't think there will probably be any significant reduction in numbers even with a shorter season. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see the same or slightly greater increase from last year.
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Post by js2397 on Jul 11, 2010 12:40:02 GMT -5
I think 2011 numbers will be well below the previous 5 year average while hunters adjust to the changes. It is possible that the numbers will go back up in 2012..
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Post by swilk on Jul 11, 2010 12:46:34 GMT -5
I would definitely say it is possible the 2011 numbers may indeed go down ..... but there are many, many factors that can come into play other than the possibility of a new season structure.
Crop harvest and weather being the two biggest factors IMO.
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 11, 2010 12:50:42 GMT -5
No doubt, I wouldn't hazard a guess. In the end I expect avg Joe hunter to be upset but nothing severe enough will happen to make IDNR decide to make a change once this is in place.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 11, 2010 13:15:02 GMT -5
First off the "new rules" have not been passed "yet' ..
I think this is just like our present day economy. Our economy will come back no matter what Obama and the politicians do.
According to my financial advisor (and believe him) it would come back a LOT faster if they just got out of the way.
I think that the kill will be up in 2011 whether these proposals are adopted our not. Sometimes government makes too many rules....well most of the time they make too many rules..
Restrictions and that what this shortened seasons are, are barriers to recruiting new hunters, and as a result restrictions should exist only if they are absolutely necessary and factually or scientifically based. I don't believe that these moving and shortening the season is all that "scientifically based" or they wouldn't have said "May" increase the harvest.
IMO - the IDNR threw the baby out with the bath water here..
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Post by mrfixit on Jul 11, 2010 13:28:30 GMT -5
I don't trust bureaucracy all that much, I'm sorta of the mind it wouldn't matter if they cut the gun season to 3 days we would still have another record year! ;D
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 12, 2010 6:31:04 GMT -5
How much? Not sure, but they will be down if the new regs are implemented to keep firearms out of the peak of buck & doe breeding activity.
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