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Post by bill on Feb 23, 2008 8:21:12 GMT -5
Where do you see deer hunting twenty years from now (2028) ? I'll be 68 and probably won't care too much , but what about you young people? It will get here sooner than what you think.
If I own land I will still hunt. I have a L / L so license fees won't bother me. Where I hunt I have permission to cross the fence and can hunt 600 aces. I imagine this will become a high price lease so I won't be able to Cross the fence. Will state land be overrun?
What about antler size? Will a 16 point 24" inside spread buck be something you pass on? What will a license cost?
Something to think about.
Bill
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Post by live2hunt on Feb 23, 2008 8:58:22 GMT -5
Hopefully in 20 years, I will either own land or have a nice lease or a combination of the two. I'm not crazy about the fact that hunting land is very hard to find, but I'm not going to complain about it. Rather than whine about not being able to be the only person hunting on 40acres of pristine deer habitat, I'm going to work my arse off to find some good ground in the next few years. Whether that means saving money for a lease, buying land, or whatever, I'm going to do it because I love this sport so much. Other than my faith, my wife, and the rest of my family, I really do live 2 hunt. I hope people will stay passionate about deer hunting and the sport will grow in a good way! I'm sure liscense costs will be rediculous, and everything else will cost more as well, but I'll still be out there chasing the whitetail deer because it's what I love and what I'm all about!
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Feb 25, 2008 7:29:45 GMT -5
With the OBR mindset any of us that are still kicking should be killing book bucks every season!
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 25, 2008 8:59:56 GMT -5
It will certainly be a high dollar "sport"...
I've told Woodmaster taht he neds to buy hunting gorund now for the future.
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Post by chicobrownbear on Feb 25, 2008 9:14:09 GMT -5
I really don't have an optimistic view with what trophy hunting does to people.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 25, 2008 9:31:58 GMT -5
I really don't have an optimistic view with what trophy hunting does to people. Agreed.
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Post by 10point on Feb 25, 2008 9:40:55 GMT -5
I don't even like to think about it. It depresses me!
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Post by drs on Feb 25, 2008 9:49:08 GMT -5
In twenty years I'll be 78 years old. Don't know if I'll be doing much hunting then. Maybe Squirrels with a shotgun.
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Post by drs on Feb 25, 2008 9:50:21 GMT -5
I don't even like to think about it. It depresses me! ME TOO.
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Post by Sleazy E on Feb 25, 2008 9:54:34 GMT -5
in 20 years hunting land will be leased for $100 an acre.... and the state and federal government realizing there is so much money to be made will be leasing "public" hunting ground to the highest bidder. It will get to the point that the "common" man will not be able to afford to hunt anymore. For this reason I am buying property as soon as me and the wife get established in TN (in a couple years) I know it will be very expensive but it will still be only a fraction of the cost that will be paid 20 years from now..... then my only concern is someone buying up allt he land around me and building housing developments.... turning my country home and hunting land in to a suburb.
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Post by tenring on Feb 25, 2008 10:09:57 GMT -5
If someone is thinking about leasing a piece of land, do it now but try and do it on a long term method and offer a little bit more than todays' going rate but lock it in place. Think of it as a gun that you bought 20 years ago [for us somewhat more chronologically advanced individuals] and what would it cost for you to buy it today. If you paid 10 bucks an acre today, and had it locked in for 25 years, what would it cost you to lease that same piece of land [hoping that it didn't turn into a subdivision by then]. Given that you had a covenant registered at the local courthouse it would be no different that if the owner had sold the mineral rights to the property, no matter who owns it, the lease is still there. Money talks and BS walks. Just a thought, but what do I know, in 20 years I'll be dead and could care less.
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Post by Hawkeye on Feb 25, 2008 10:45:52 GMT -5
If there is any a form of hunting, after the extensive back ground check you may or may not be issued a one day one deer permit from the state.You most likely will have to go to a Federal agency sign out your weapon, and apply to purchase a few bullets that have on file the numbers ingrained on each bullet. Then you will go and purchase the animal you would like to shoot,again from the state. Sad to say ,this may not be far from the truth in the future. But, I will be dead,but it has been a great ride.
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Post by js2397 on Feb 25, 2008 10:52:56 GMT -5
Something will have to give. The state needs deer killed. There is really only one way for that to happen so they will come up with some plan. I predict in the future if you don't hunt your land then the state will make you open it up to hunting.
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 25, 2008 11:18:07 GMT -5
I would predict in 5 years Indiana will start seeing some pressure from the outfitters and "big time" leasing. Within 10 years it will be in full force. I've been securing ground for the last 10 years in anticipation of this and have at least a couple big farms locked down for a long time. I will lose some ground and gain some in those years, that already happens every year, though. In 20 years, I'll be retired and hopefully still have some good private ground hunting areas thanks to working every year at keeping them, or I'll just hunt public ground through the week.
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Post by drs on Feb 25, 2008 15:00:21 GMT -5
I would predict in 5 years Indiana will start seeing some pressure from the outfitters and "big time" leasing. Within 10 years it will be in full force. If this happens then it's Bye-Bye Hunting for many Hoosiers. The State should make every effort to prevent this from happening. NOW!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2008 15:19:56 GMT -5
I would predict in 5 years Indiana will start seeing some pressure from the outfitters and "big time" leasing. Within 10 years it will be in full force. I've been securing ground for the last 10 years in anticipation of this and have at least a couple big farms locked down for a long time. I will lose some ground and gain some in those years, that already happens every year, though. In 20 years, I'll be retired and hopefully still have some good private ground hunting areas thanks to working every year at keeping them, or I'll just hunt public ground through the week. What's the difference in a outfitter or a "big time lease" doing the exact same thing your doing......locking up ground and keeping other hunters out. Seems like your calling the pot black?
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 25, 2008 16:55:54 GMT -5
Whatever ground that is good for IN that I have been able to gain permission to is a result of hard work and what little money I have to put towards it outside of my other responsiblities. In turn, I try to provide some decent hunting to friends and family that might appreciate it. I despise the BIG money hunters that think they can buy into good hunting. None the less, I have invested monetarily in Indiana hunting more than I care to recall. Just bullheaded about going out of state, I guess.
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Post by steiny on Feb 25, 2008 20:21:03 GMT -5
freedomhunter - Timex is correct, the only difference between your program and the outfitters or leasers is that you are exchanging "hard work" (whatever that may be) in lieu of cash, for the privledge of locking up a bunch of good hunting ground to keep outsiders out. Big money people you refer to that lease are doing very little different. Same end result, limited hunting by a select few.
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Post by duff on Feb 25, 2008 20:55:02 GMT -5
If we continue to get help from guys like Outdoorswithdon we won't have to worry about hunting in Indiana. His lame approach to limiting gun season could have serious fallout and restrict all types of "gun" hunting.
Other then that, I don't think much about what it will be like in 20 yrs. I hope to have property that I can let my kids and family and friends hunt on still enjoy the other types of hunting and outdoors. Time will tell. 20 yrs ago I was just starting out, even though lots have changed in those days it has not changed all that much. We will see where it takes us, the economy will have alot to do with it IMO. Lots of excess cash expect hunting to keep going in the same direction, any major downturns it will stall out too.
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 25, 2008 22:17:48 GMT -5
Timex and Steiny, I agree wholeheartedly. Just doing what it takes for me and my family for the future. I'm sure I have pushed a few people out, and I am on the other end of that every year, also. It is dog eat dog and I'll be the first one on public ground (which I hunt occasionally anyway) if I lose everything else, but I've made sure that is not going to happen. I've helped more than a few guys get permission on ground that I know is out there and I won't hunt, far from selfish, here. Hard work "whatever that is" includes scheduling work days to remove trash, keep the property posted, keep up fence rows, cut up and remove downed tops, or whatever is needed. Stuff that means more to the owner than just writing a check.
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