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Post by gobblerstopper on Dec 26, 2009 21:08:58 GMT -5
What if the deer measured 129 1/4" would you pay the fine.If they are so concerned about the 130" rule they should put a guide on each hunt. I believe that when you pay for a hunt and agree to shoot nothing less than a 130" buck, then you take full responsibility. If you don't know your target, then don't shoot. If a person can't tell if a buck is going to go over 130", then this type of hunt would not be for them. Personally, I wouldn't pay to shoot a 130" buck anywhere. But if they are not putting a trophy fee on top of any buck shot, I would be looking for 155" or bigger. |
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Post by Sasquatch on Dec 27, 2009 8:30:33 GMT -5
I am with you duck, I can't hardly figure how those guys that always see the 12 to 16 pointers run by at hundreds of yards away... Where I hunt you barely have time to pull the bow back once you see the deer. Figure if I like it I will shoot it, I don't need some score to determine what I am going to shoot. I think it is great that these guys placing their own restrictions and trying to get paid for the opportunity. It ain't for me and they don't want me. lol...yeah....When I see a buck that isn't in the open or right under the tree, I hesitate to put a point count on it. Too many deer seen at dusk, obscured by cover, etc. I always wonder about those dudes that always know exactly how many points every deer they see has. Super vision I guess. |
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Post by schall53 on Dec 27, 2009 9:17:48 GMT -5
A little tip a friend showed me a long time ago to count points. Just count what he called the UPS, in other words don't try and cout all the points, just count the points coming off the main beam. SDon't count the main beam and assume they have brow tines. If you see a fork on each side that is a six pointer. If you see two up that is an eight pointer, three up is a ten point, etc. If that is all you look at all it take is a quick glance to count points, that is unless it is a big non typical. If that's the case just shoot and count later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2009 10:25:35 GMT -5
Counting points and making 130" are two different things, you need to look at the mass and spread to be sure. A lot of 2.5 yr. old 8 pointers will not make 130" gross or net. Most 10's will but not all.
If the minimum is gross score then it would make field judgement a lot easier, so that would need to be clarified before you book this hunt.
As for the retriction itself, it's fair. Not for everybody but it's not intended to be for everybody. those that don't want to play don't have too. But the realty is that more and more people want these kind of restrictions in place on places they come to hunt on. They can stay home and kill dinks.
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Post by swilk on Dec 28, 2009 8:33:15 GMT -5
I am with you duck, I can't hardly figure how those guys that always see the 12 to 16 pointers run by at hundreds of yards away... Where I hunt you barely have time to pull the bow back once you see the deer. Figure if I like it I will shoot it, I don't need some score to determine what I am going to shoot. I think it is great that these guys placing their own restrictions and trying to get paid for the opportunity. It ain't for me and they don't want me. lol...yeah....When I see a buck that isn't in the open or right under the tree, I hesitate to put a point count on it. Too many deer seen at dusk, obscured by cover, etc. I always wonder about those dudes that always know exactly how many points every deer they see has. Super vision I guess. Is it possible that some guys carry really good optics and actually know how to use them? That wont allow you to clearly see and judge every deer but it goes a long way ...... with a naked eye I couldnt tell much more than "its a deer" out past 200 yards in the open or 100 yards in the woods. Put a good pair of optics in my hands and I can usually identify everything I need to identify out to several hundred yards. |
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Post by racktracker on Dec 28, 2009 8:51:46 GMT -5
I don't know this outfit but numerous outfitters try to protect the younger bucks by some kind of restriction. If they did not some of the hunters that use them would be dropping the hammer on smaller bucks. Why? Because a lot of these hunters book these hunts because they just want to kill something nice. When it gets down to the last day or two they just want "to get their money's worth" and take something/anything home.
Cant field judge a 130? Don't book...
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 28, 2009 9:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 28, 2009 10:10:27 GMT -5
the only wya I caight iot was i spelt cheked it.  That is why we have these little teensy tiny gremlin pictures with santy hats on.
Deertracks would be lost without them.. LMAO! D you're killing me man! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Decatur on Dec 28, 2009 10:11:39 GMT -5
;d Love ya Deertracks! ;d
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Post by oneshot on Dec 30, 2009 9:02:52 GMT -5
So answer me this....."when did 3.5 yr. old deer become mature"?
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 30, 2009 9:21:31 GMT -5
So answer me this....."when did 3.5 yr. old deer become mature"? I think because most of Indiana hunters rarely see one that reaches maturity (4.5 years old). We are getting there, though. |
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 30, 2009 9:44:24 GMT -5
At $1,250 per head I'll bet you do...  The question that I have is that(assuming this is not high fenced) if they have such great bucks cruising through their land then why would you pay to hunt there when you could set up outside their land and have the same chances? I'd be willing to bet that I could get one of their neighbors to let me hunt their property for a per day fee far less than what BHO is asking since they'd have no expenses to amortize. |
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 30, 2009 12:25:38 GMT -5
good point Kevin, you could have your pick of a farm to hunt for $100 a day in some of the more poor areas of Southern Indiana, just walk up to the old farm house with a c-note and try not to act like an idiot
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2009 14:31:26 GMT -5
Heck yeah, that's what I'd do. Hunt one day and pocket the $1150 for beer and smokes later on.
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Post by fullrut on Jan 26, 2010 22:02:00 GMT -5
HADLEY CREEK?  ?? |
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Post by huxbux on Jan 26, 2010 22:30:11 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but when money and a bunch of arbitrary rules are thrown into the endeavor, it just takes all the enjoyment out of the hunt. One of the main reasons I hunt is to leave all that behind.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 27, 2010 10:19:51 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but when money and a bunch of arbitrary rules are thrown into the endeavor, it just takes all the enjoyment out of the hunt. One of the main reasons I hunt is to leave all that behind. You're not alone. |
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Post by vectrix on Jan 27, 2010 10:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by danimal8876 on Jan 30, 2010 12:24:11 GMT -5
At $1,250 per head I'll bet you do... The question that I have is that(assuming this is not high fenced) if they have such great bucks cruising through their land then why would you pay to hunt there when you could set up outside their land and have the same chances? I'd be willing to bet that I could get one of their neighbors to let me hunt their property for a per day fee far less than what BHO is asking since they'd have no expenses to amortize. good luck getting permission on the property next door in PARKE COUNTY. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 30, 2010 12:41:18 GMT -5
At $1,250 per head I'll bet you do... The question that I have is that(assuming this is not high fenced) if they have such great bucks cruising through their land then why would you pay to hunt there when you could set up outside their land and have the same chances? I'd be willing to bet that I could get one of their neighbors to let me hunt their property for a per day fee far less than what BHO is asking since they'd have no expenses to amortize. good luck getting permission on the property next door in PARKE COUNTY. Yep.. Good luck getting permission on ANY property in PARKE COUNTY. |
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