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Post by hornharvester on Nov 28, 2009 17:23:33 GMT -5
Im sad to say while sitting in my stand this morning about 7:30 I saw the helicopter fly out of Ft Wayne and I wondered where they were going as they usually got straight south or west to either Huntington, Wabash or Marion. About 1/2 later they flew back over me going to the hospital and I think most likely they were transporting this child. Sad thing to happen and I hope he recovers with no life long disabilities. h.h.
Child shot in hunting accident The Journal Gazette
An eight-year-old boy is in critical condition today after being shot in the chest during a hunting accident.
The boy and his father were hunting from a tree stand in LaFontaine when the boy accidentally knocked over a shotgun that had been set aside, a statement from the Huntington County Sheriff’s Department said. The gun fired when its hammer struck the floor of the tree stand.
The boy was flown from the scene to Parkview Samaritan Hospital and is in critical condition.
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 28, 2009 17:28:26 GMT -5
Truly sad. My prayers for the family; I can't image what the father is going through.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 28, 2009 17:30:44 GMT -5
That's terrible
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Post by vectrix on Nov 28, 2009 17:34:03 GMT -5
My familys thoughts and prayers for the family, terrible situation. I can't even imagine................
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 28, 2009 18:26:09 GMT -5
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Child shot in hunting accident The Journal Gazette
The boy and his father were hunting from a tree stand in LaFontaine when the boy accidentally knocked over a shotgun that had been set aside, a statement from the Huntington County Sheriff’s Department said. The gun fired when its hammer struck the floor of the tree stand.
BULLCRAP. Every time there is an accidental shooting it's because a gun fell over and went off. I defy anyone to replicate this mystical event and videotape it.
Lets pray the boy recovers.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 28, 2009 18:33:17 GMT -5
That is truly sad.
Prayers for a speedy and a complete recovery.
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Post by check171 on Nov 28, 2009 18:36:53 GMT -5
Our thoughts and prayers are with the boy and his family
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Post by deerslayer73 on Nov 28, 2009 18:51:05 GMT -5
I just got out of the woods about an hr ago with my son and I can't imagine something like that happening to him!! Thoughts and prayers with the family
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Post by alan on Nov 28, 2009 18:53:20 GMT -5
Can this happen if the saftey in on?
Our prayers go out to the boy and his family.
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Post by duff on Nov 28, 2009 19:07:13 GMT -5
Makes me sick to my stomach...my thoughts and prayers are with this young boy and his family. They need them! Puts things in perspective.
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Post by trophyhunter1 on Nov 28, 2009 19:43:18 GMT -5
thats horrible...hope he makes it..
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Post by crazybuck on Nov 28, 2009 19:54:41 GMT -5
Sounds like the gun could have been cocked when it was set aside. I hope and pray the boy recovers.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 28, 2009 20:22:54 GMT -5
Can this happen if the saftey in on?Our prayers go out to the boy and his family. Maybe with some ancient firearms.... but with anything of recent vintage an accidental discharge is a virtual impossibility with the safety on. Even with the safety off, contrivances such as hammer blocks and transfer bars keep the firing pin from hitting the primer unless the hammer is cocked and trigger is pulled. Can a hammer be jarred loose, even when cocked, just by tipping over? I hate to say anything is impossible, but I think it's fair to say, "highly unlikely." Maybe something caught the trigger on the way down, or a well-meaning attempt to catch the falling gun resulted in a trigger pull. I just can't see it tipping over and going off. If guns were that loose they'd go off all the time.
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Post by check171 on Nov 28, 2009 20:34:04 GMT -5
Guys I understand what your saying BUT come on its about the boy now . Can this happen if the saftey in on?Our prayers go out to the boy and his family. Maybe with some ancient firearms.... but with anything of recent vintage an accidental discharge is a virtual impossibility with the safety on. Even with the safety off, contrivances such as hammer blocks and transfer bars keep the firing pin from hitting the primer unless the trigger is pulled. Can a hammer be jarred loose, even when cocked, just by tipping over? I hate to say anything is impossible, but I think it's fair to say, "highly unlikely." Maybe something caught the trigger on the way down, or a well-meaning attempt to catch the falling gun resulted in a trigger pull. I just can't see it tipping over and going off. If guns were that loose they'd go off all the time.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 28, 2009 20:45:53 GMT -5
Guys I understand what your saying BUT come on its about the boy now .Yes... a boy that is very seriously injured and may die because of a preventable accident. I'd say that ultimately this is about gun safety, or the lack thereof. I think it's safe to say we are all praying for the victim. That said, every year we hear about people shot because a gun got bumped, or even more ridiculous, someone thought a person was a deer. We aren't doing anyone any favors by sugar coating the situation.
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Post by crazybuck on Nov 28, 2009 20:48:39 GMT -5
I don't know. I think when a gun has a hammer, when it is in the fully cocked position the hammer block or transfer block is in position between the hammer and firing pin. I think if the gun were to fall over and the hammer would hit something hard enough it would go off if it were in the cocked position. I think the transfer bar only protects the firing pin from being hit if the hammer is hit with the gun in the non-cocked position. (down) It is possible that the safety was not on. I think a safety on some of these cheap guns could be jarred. I think when you cock one the transfer block comes up I believe. I am not saying you are wrong, but I think it is possible to go off. If that is not correct then I will except a logical explanation. I could be wrong.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 28, 2009 20:53:07 GMT -5
I don't know. I think when a gun has a hammer, when it is in the fully cocked position the hammer block or transfer block is in position between the hammer and firing pin. I think if the gun were to fall over and the hammer would hit something hard enough it would go off if it were in the cocked position. I think the transfer bar only protects the firing pin from being hit if the hammer is hit with the gun in the non-cocked position. (down) It is possible that the safety was not on. I think a safety on some of these cheap guns could be jarred. I think when you cock one the transfer block comes up I believe. I am not saying you are wrong, but I think it is possible to go off. If that is not correct then I will except a logical explanation. I could be wrong. No, you are right, If the hammer falls then those things would not keep the gun from going off. What I'm saying is that I don't think a gun falling over would make the hammer drop on anything but some saturday night special. If the hammer is down, the types of protections you mention make it all but impossible for a discharge to occur. Besides, we don't even know that it was cocked; and we have all heard tales of guns going off just from falling over, hammer down, safety off, etc.
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Post by crazybuck on Nov 28, 2009 21:00:15 GMT -5
I guess I didn't understand you. I agree with you. Lets hope the boy recovers. Very sad.
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Post by Sasquatch on Nov 28, 2009 21:11:30 GMT -5
I guess I didn't understand you. I agree with you. Lets hope the boy recovers. Very sad. I don't make myself clear enough when I write. I re-read what I wrote and I saw why you thought what you did, Crazybuck. My fault, not yours! I don't mean to be a Nazi about the situation anyway....it just seems like the gun always gets blamed.
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Post by crazybuck on Nov 28, 2009 21:47:07 GMT -5
It was probably my mistake, Sasquatch. Your right. Its a shame, but there are a lot of deranged people out there nowadays it seems. We are on the same page.
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