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Post by kdog8173 on Nov 26, 2009 10:25:19 GMT -5
first year hunting..shooting a 20 gauge no but I'm not sure if he can handle the 50 cal..do they make 1 for youth
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Post by turkeyscout on Nov 26, 2009 10:40:31 GMT -5
for my grandson, he uses a mk 85 knight 50 cal. since he was ten, no problem, i just cut the rear end of the stock off and when he got older (hes' 17 now) i had a friend glue it back on and put in two screws to hold it, good as new, youths need a gun that fits!!!!!....turkey scout
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Post by UrbanArcher82 on Nov 26, 2009 11:47:22 GMT -5
i was 12 when i killed my first turkey using my dads 12gauge with 31/2 inch shells so i think he should be fine because when your shooting at a deer you dint even think about or feel the kick.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 26, 2009 12:12:12 GMT -5
I would not suggest a youth using a 3 1/2 inch magnum gun.
While it is true that shots at game are seldom felt, shots on the practice range are felt and felt hard. Especially when one is shooting a fair number of times. The youth can develop a very severe flinch by shooting to heavy of a load. We all need to practice more and taking big thumps to the shoulder ceases to be fun in a hurry..
Turkey scout's recommendation is fine. MZs can be downloaded until the youth gets used to it and then move up to game sized loads.
Good luck and let us know the progress...
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Post by racktracker on Nov 26, 2009 12:58:07 GMT -5
A 20 guage can be potent medicine for deer hunting. A good number of adult hunters are going to them. If he, or you, have your hearts set on a MZ go with a 50. It can be loaded up and down. Sorry, I don't even like 3 1/2 inchers and I am a grown man.
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Post by southpawshooter on Nov 26, 2009 14:53:21 GMT -5
If he is using a 20 gauge now he wont have any problem with a muzzleloader .Muzzleloaders dont really kick its more of a push.and as other members mentioned you can start him on a smaller load and move him up.i would go with the 50 cal as its easier to find the loads for and a wider range of ammo than a 45. also it wont be long before that boy will be wanting to try those magnum charges .You can get a good starter kit with scope and all at wallyworld for around 300
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 26, 2009 17:24:01 GMT -5
Yes they have youth model M/L ( all it's a short barrel, sometimes, and shorter stock). Suggest you have you child pick up a few model and try it out. Depending on his size a regular model may fit best. My son starting shooting M/L (traditional) when he was 12 and had no problems with 70 grains of 2F BP.
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Post by jkd on Nov 26, 2009 17:31:27 GMT -5
I picked up a CVA Optima 209 Magnum .50 for my son when he was 11, and he had no problems with it even shooting 100gr loads. It's got some weight to it and a nice thick recoil pad, so it's an easy handling gun and would be no problem for a 13 y.o. Felt recoil with 100gr loads is actually less than a 20ga shooting hot slug loads.
Chris is 15 now and still hunting with it, and has taken deer every year but one, and 245gr Powerbelts with 100gr loads it hits right where you're aiming every time.
It's a break action style, which I think is easier to pull primers out of than bolt actions, and you can remove the breech plug without having to completely break down the gun, but that's easy too just by removing the forearm screw and it comes apart just like a break action shotgun. Comes tapped for scope mounts and has sling swivels ready to go...
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Post by UrbanArcher82 on Nov 26, 2009 18:06:52 GMT -5
jkd im 14 and got the same one and i honestly was suprized by the low recoil.
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Post by vectrix on Nov 26, 2009 19:03:54 GMT -5
Thats what my son shoots jkd , Optima works good for kids of that age. I don't care for the 3.5 in much myself either but that gun is potent medicine on those birds. Renegade82 took his first two turkeys with it, first one at 12. I agree with you fellas that it may be too much gun for some but he seems to handle 12's just fine. kdog, 100 grains out of my sons Optima poduces minimal kick
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 26, 2009 19:12:37 GMT -5
Rossi makes a youth model .50 muzzle loader at a very reasonable price. 250 grain saboted bullets like t/c shockwaves or hornady sst and a 100 grain or less of either pyrodex or t-7 would be a good load for a youth. h.h.
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