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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2007 13:56:57 GMT -5
I went over to the rifle club to try the Hornady SSTs for tomorrow.
I had never shot them before and WAS making the switch.
For the life of me I could not get them to go down my barrel of my Omega.
These are 50 caliber 45 250 GR SST/ML and they flat would not fit. I pushed and shoved and they would not go down more than an inch. I had to remove the breech plug and shove it back out.
I ended up shooting the black sabot that came with the SSTs with my 44 caliber 240 GR HP/XTP bullets.
They slid down very easily. Maybe too easily? Not too happy with the consistancy of them though. 50 yards it was a 1 1/2 inch group. That is minute of deer, but it could and should be a lot betetr.
Anyone else having trouble with these SSTs?
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Post by chicobrownbear on Dec 7, 2007 14:03:21 GMT -5
The plastic jackets could be oversized.
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Post by jkd on Dec 7, 2007 14:12:08 GMT -5
Woody, Check out this article on your issue... same problem with the sabots, and he swapped them out for the Harvester "Crush Rib" sabots for use with the SST's... www.gunweek.com/2006/feature0210.htmlI've had real good luck with 245gr Powerbelts in Chris' Optima, and they're a lot easier to load than sabots, especially on the 2nd shot on... |
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2007 14:28:59 GMT -5
The plastic jackets could be oversized. These are the ones that came with the SSTs in a package. They should fit... |
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Post by weedhopper on Dec 7, 2007 14:59:53 GMT -5
Try some 250gr. TC Shockwaves with the yellow sabots. I believe they're called the Super Glides. Same bullet. Much easier to load.  |
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Post by Gunsafe on Dec 7, 2007 16:31:10 GMT -5
u can't use 45 cal. they are .452 u need .429 - .430 good luck
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Post by jajwrigh on Dec 7, 2007 17:10:34 GMT -5
I had a really hard time getting the 300 grainers down the barrel of my T/C Black Diamond. It was completely rediculous!!
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 7, 2007 17:53:22 GMT -5
WW, go to walmart and get some t/c shockwaves and see if they will fit. you cant shoot 44 caliber .429 bullets in a 50 caliber sabot designed for .452 bullets. Easy Glides sabots might be the answer or you can switch the MMP 12 which comes with the SST for MMP 24 sabots which are .002 diameter smaller for tighter bores. Another thing you could do is swap out the SST bullet for 250 XTP's in .452 diameter. h.h.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2007 18:38:26 GMT -5
Call me stupid, but I thought when I bought a box of 50 caliber 45 250 GR SST/ML that they should fit my 50 caliber muzzleloader.
They don't.
The .430 (44 caliber) XTPs did shoot out of my gun in the black sabots that came with SSTs. They slid down the barrel real easy. They did not group as well as I thought that they should.
Aren't Shockwaves the same thing as the SSTs?
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Post by weedhopper on Dec 7, 2007 18:59:49 GMT -5
Shockwaves and SSTs are the same bullet made by Hornady. The only difference is in the color of the tip. SSTs are red,,and Shockwaves are yellow. Hornady makes 'em for TC....  Get some Super Glide Shockwaves,,and be done with it. I've had 2 Omegas with the same problems. Got rid of both of them. When TC stops selling guns with the "QLA",,I might try another one. |
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 7, 2007 19:25:57 GMT -5
Call me stupid, but I thought when I bought a box of 50 caliber 45 250 GR SST/ML that they should fit my 50 caliber muzzleloader. They don't. The .430 (44 caliber) XTPs did shoot out of my gun in the black sabots that came with SSTs. They slid down the barrel real easy. They did not group as well as I thought that they should. Aren't Shockwaves the same thing as the SSTs? Woody, The bullets are OK its the sabot thats the problem. 44 caliber .429-430 bullets in a green 50 caliber sabot will work or 45 caliber .451-452 bullets in the black 50 caliber sabot will work. Sounds to me you have a tight barrel and the sabots are too big. Hornady uses MMP 12 sabots with the SST and they are .002-.003 bigger than the MMP 24 sabot. Hornady makes three bullets in the same design. The SST, T/C Shockwave and the Bonded Shockwave. I think T/C Shockwave uses the MMP 24 sabot and that might be the one for your barrel. Walmart carries the Shockwave and Dicks has the Bonded Shockwave which is a tougher bullet. h.h. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2007 19:45:28 GMT -5
Where can I buy just the sabots?
I have 20 SST bullets.
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Post by weedhopper on Dec 7, 2007 19:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2007 19:59:41 GMT -5
Do you think those are the 12s or the 24s?
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Post by jajwrigh on Dec 7, 2007 20:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by weedhopper on Dec 7, 2007 20:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 7, 2007 23:32:22 GMT -5
Do you think those are the 12s or the 24s? Read MMP's site and see what sabot you think you need. You might try the 3 petal EZ loading sabot. www.mmpsabots.com/Harvester crush rib sabots might also be the one. They are made in Hopkinsville, KY. www.harvesterbullets.com/sabots.htm |
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Post by indianahick on Dec 8, 2007 11:16:01 GMT -5
Go to a gun store that carries lots of ML stuff. They should have the Hornaday pre packaged sabots. In the bag there is a card that will say which bullet to use for that particular sabot. They are the MMP's, but just green and black, If you are shooting a 430 bullet get the green. I think HornHarvester is correct in his guess about the black being larger yet still being sized to take the 452 but will work better with the 451 if you can find them (451's). Or just get a couple of packages of the T/C Shockwaves in 250 with the yellow poly carb sabot, my Triumph likes them.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 8, 2007 21:31:32 GMT -5
I use the 250gr sst and i've yet to have a single deer take a step after i slung the lead
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Get some Super Glide Shockwaves,,and be done with it. 
