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Post by baker7mm on Nov 13, 2007 12:28:47 GMT -5
Well I did not see any deer in MS2, I did have alot of people walking around within 30 yards of my stand. I thought that was kind of weird considering only 12 people were signed in MS2. The numbers were pretty low about 25 deer were checked by 2pm. I thought that was pretty sad considering the HUNDREDS of SHOTS I heard, 5 rounds would go off then after time to reload I heard more... It is kind of scary, what kind of hunter needs to shoot 5 times? I consider myself lucky to be able to bowhunt at Crane for the whole season, but I may not ever gun hunt there again after sunday. I sat yesterday evening and saw quite a few deer moving really fast. Gonna sit this evening hopefully the deer will have calmed down by now.
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Post by hoosiernavy29 on Nov 13, 2007 12:31:56 GMT -5
I also heard the same rampage of shots, I was in area 17, I heard at least 6 volleys of 4 or more shots, nuts. Luckly they weren't near by.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 13, 2007 18:26:32 GMT -5
I hunted area 4 and heard several rounds of 4 or 5 shots and I agree why would you need that many shots?
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Nov 13, 2007 19:02:49 GMT -5
I also heard the same rampage of shots, I was in area 17, I heard at least 6 volleys of 4 or more shots, nuts. Luckly they weren't near by. I was in 17 as well. I heard those multi-round shots as well. I didn't have any shots close to me tho.
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Post by sr71 on Nov 14, 2007 8:10:31 GMT -5
Good morning to all. Long time browsing the site, first time posting. First off I would like to say hello. Secondly I want to say how much I enjoy reading the post and the site overall. I too hunted NSA Crane Sunday. Actually, I hunt here pretty much everyday as I've worked here for a long while. Most of my hunting consists primarily with stick and string, but I along with others will throw some lead down range at a chance to score on a nice deer. As of lately I'm getting to the point of not even coming to the Sunday gun hunts. I want to say first off that I'm not painting a wide brush stroke when I say that I'm finding more State hunters who are having a total lack of respect for many other hunters here on Center. It seems like every passing year it gets worse. I understand that some hunters who get drawn for a hunt feel this it their chance at getting a quality deer here at Crane and want to take every opportunity to do so. What I don't understand is running around driving deer, spot stalking or whatever in areas where one doesn't know where others are hunting. When one comes upon another fellow hunter he/she especially when asked, should do an about face and go back the way from which he or she came. The voluminous amount of gun fire is a prelude to the spray and pray notion that a lot of people have of gun hunters. IMO, this is not a good thing. One last thing, when driving deer and coming upon another hunter who then ask you to please go the other way, don't tell him or her to F__ off. It's not nice and speaks volumes of ones character and ethics. Definitely don't park right by their vehicle, take a crap and leave one's TP on and by their POV. ; ) It's not nice. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent and I like to wish everyone luck on their next hunt! SR out.
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Post by duff on Nov 14, 2007 10:44:56 GMT -5
Ouch, the TP on your vehicle is the last straw...
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Post by beehunter on Nov 14, 2007 15:04:44 GMT -5
(Definitely don't park right by their vehicle, take a crap and leave one's TP on and by their POV.) I believe thats the rudest thing I have ever heard, did that happen last Sunday?
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Post by realhunter on Nov 14, 2007 15:17:37 GMT -5
yes
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Post by parrothead on Nov 14, 2007 15:19:33 GMT -5
Dont they have places where employees only can hunt.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 14, 2007 17:54:46 GMT -5
We've had this discussion on here before about public ground hunting. Anyone has a right to hunt any where on public ground and you should understand that when you hunt there. Don't be upset at a person for hunting where he wants on public ground. There is no "my spot". Just because you were there first doesn't mean someone else cant hunt there too. Public ground is just that public ground so expect someone to walk upon you or sit close by and if it bothers you that much then maybe you shouldn't be hunting public ground. h.h.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 14, 2007 19:15:32 GMT -5
We've had this discussion on here before about public ground hunting. Anyone has a right to hunt any where on public ground and you should understand that when you hunt there. Don't be upset at a person for hunting where he wants on public ground. There is no "my spot". Just because you were there first doesn't mean someone else cant hunt there too. Public ground is just that public ground so expect someone to walk upon you or sit close by and if it bothers you that much then maybe you shouldn't be hunting public ground. h.h. I agree its public ground but there is also something called common courtesy, something lacking in alot of hunters today.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 14, 2007 20:42:48 GMT -5
Common courtesy is another word used for this is my spot and I was here first and you should move on.
There are no rules or regulations govern public land hunting. Expect the unexpected when hunting public land and don't get mad at someone who wants to hunt the same spot. He has just as much right as you do. You don't own the land and have no right to dictate where another hunter hunts!
Now most guys will heed to another hunter thats already there and move on but don't expect this to happen every time. Scout out several spots so you can move if you don't like the situation. h.h.
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Post by sr71 on Nov 14, 2007 20:57:53 GMT -5
HH, Sorry there buddy but NSA Crane is NOT public ground! It's a privledge granted to both employees and others to hunt there. You need to educate yourself a little before talking about something you obviously know nothing about. Once you’re in your area there is NO moving or changing areas. The only time one will move is to retrieve a deer or if one is returning to hunt headquarters. This is the way it's been for some time now. I have zero problems with sharing hunting ground with others as most areas are big enough for everyone. What I do have a problem with is persons running around the woods not knowing where others are. It's not only rude, but it's not safe. If this was YOUR private farm and YOU are the only one hunting than by all means walk all over YOUR place.
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 14, 2007 21:29:06 GMT -5
Every time I have drawn and hunted Crane, I've been walked on. Not very many of the "hunters" follow the rules. Feel lucky you can hunt it at other times than the mass hunts. The pool of selected hunters needs to be more "selective", imo.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 14, 2007 21:38:04 GMT -5
HH, Sorry there buddy but NSA Crane is NOT public ground! It's a privledge granted to both employees and others to hunt there. You need to educate yourself a little before talking about something you obviously know nothing about. Once you’re in your area there is NO moving or changing areas. The only time one will move is to retrieve a deer or if one is returning to hunt headquarters. This is the way it's been for some time now. I have zero problems with sharing hunting ground with others as most areas are big enough for everyone. What I do have a problem with is persons running around the woods not knowing where others are. It's not only rude, but it's not safe. If this was YOUR private farm and YOU are the only one hunting than by all means walk all over YOUR place. SR71, Sorry but I have hunted there and the only rule was to stay parked in your area unless you were leaving or checking your deer or has that changed in two years? As long as you stayed in your area you could go any where you wanted on foot. And the others that are granted permission who would they be? Wouldn't they be the public who apply? Now tell me, how is someone suppose to know where you are and you don't want them in your area? We not talking about private land, we talking about government land that anyone that got drawn can hunt, in the area they have chosen and as long as they stay in that area they can go any where they want. Unless they change it you had to wear a hunter orange safety vest and orange hat. My advise is learn how to share or maybe don't hunt on the days the public is invited. h.h.
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Post by sr71 on Nov 14, 2007 21:49:39 GMT -5
Freedomhunter, I would like to apologize for others for walking on you during your hunt. I am fortunate for what I have as far as hunting ground. Not only do I have a job I love which supports a lot of my buddies over seas, I have a great place to hunt on center as well as my farm to hunt. Nothing I love more than seeing friends bring there sons and daughters up to the farm and harvesting a deer. The pride and satisfaction in their eyes is a fantastic thing! So yes Freedom I consider myself very fortunate.
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Post by sr71 on Nov 14, 2007 22:03:48 GMT -5
HH, You obviously need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Show me in any of my post where I implied I did not nor will not share?? I guess you think it was their "right" to crap by the door of my truck and spread their used TP all over as well. I was very nice in speaking with the mentioned individuals only to be told to FK off. Seems to me that you are defending these "hunters" and I use that term VERY loosely. Do you have any land of your own and if so, do you let others hunt?? If you do, are the other individuals informed of where others are going to be?
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Post by deerman on Nov 14, 2007 22:30:22 GMT -5
sr71, I agree with what you are saying. Even if it public property , that still doesnt give them to the right to act like a Jackass. That ground and the right to be there belongs to everyone as long as they dont abuse it. Some people just need to grow up. I would love to see someone put some craped up Toilet paper on my truck on some public ground. I would have to give give someone a good ol' public ass whoopin.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 14, 2007 22:57:40 GMT -5
HH, You obviously need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Show me in any of my post where I implied I did not nor will not share?? I guess you think it was their "right" to crap by the door of my truck and spread their used TP all over as well. I was very nice in speaking with the mentioned individuals only to be told to FK off. Seems to me that you are defending these "hunters" and I use that term VERY loosely. Do you have any land of your own and if so, do you let others hunt?? If you do, are the other individuals informed of where others are going to be? First , I totally understood what your wrote and why. Your mad because someone walked up on you, in your spot and then ignored your command and went their own way. As to the TP incident, what has that got to do with sharing public land? Again, we not talking about private land but public land . On private land you have totally say so on how its hunted, who hunts and where. Now heres my last words, this thread was started to let others know how the hunting has been at Crane and its gotten off track. Lets get back on the subject. Good luck to all of you that hunt Crane and i hope you dont have any bad experiences. h.h.
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Post by deerman on Nov 14, 2007 23:01:56 GMT -5
Im in area 15 on sunday. Anyone have any advice or info on that area . thanks
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