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Post by gillgrabber on Nov 11, 2007 10:07:04 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, do you guys get any flack from the school if you take your kids out to go deer hunting? My kids are all in college now, but I remember taking my Son out of school back in 3rd & 4th grade for our yearly hunting trip downstate. Some of the teachers were better about it than others so some gave me grief & some didn't. I probably could have said I was taking them to Disney World and they wouldn't have said a word. My Son shot a small buck one year and came back with photos only to have his teacher frown and say "I don't know whether to congratulate or curse you". I've heard of schools in the Michigan UP that actually close down for opening day (not sure if that's true or not). Just wondering if things have gotten better, worse, or stayed the same.
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Post by danf on Nov 11, 2007 10:15:17 GMT -5
I would have to say it depends on a couple of things. One being the kid; i.e.- how well are they doing in school. If they are acing every class, then there really should be no problem. If they are failing even *one* class, they need to stay in school. The "C" range student is a judgement call, but as long as they have not missed any assignments, there really shouldn't be a problem. The other main consideration is the teachers themselves (and the administration), but that will go back to the kid. Again, if the kid is a good student and non-disruptive/dis-respectful, there *should* be no problem on the teacher's end. Being married to a teacher, I hear about the "hunting" kids at school; there are some that fit both sides of the coin (pass/fail) in my wife's classes.... As for our school district, I don't know yet- our kids are 4 and 1 1/2, so we haven't dealt with it yet.  |
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Post by indianagooseman on Nov 11, 2007 10:16:11 GMT -5
My dad did it with me and as far as I can tell it didn't hurt a thing. Actually I learned a good deal about responsability on those trips.
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Post by scrub-buster on Nov 11, 2007 10:23:10 GMT -5
I never went to school on opening day of bow season. My mom would write a note to school saying I had a "fever". She just forgot to tell them it was "buck fever". Things have changed a lot in schools in the past ten years though. It probably wouldn't be as easy now.
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Post by raporter on Nov 11, 2007 10:23:15 GMT -5
When I was in school (Back in the olden days) we were excused for the opening day of rabbit season.
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Post by duff on Nov 11, 2007 10:28:30 GMT -5
Just had a job interview in the upper lower half of the state and one of the paid hollidays was opening day of gun season. I know people from PA that had schools shut down for opener too.
If my kids are behaved and doing well in school and want to go hunting on special days I surely wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd rather them skip and hang out with good old dad as opposed to skip to get in trouble. I would think teachers would appreciate that as well. Having several teachers in my family I know most would, they all might not like hunting but they wouldn't hold it against the kids.
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Post by smokepole72 on Nov 11, 2007 14:32:03 GMT -5
My dad did it with me and as far as I can tell it didn't hurt a thing. Actually I learned a good deal about responsability on those trips. I can see it didn't effect your spelling. ;D |
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Post by duckhunterpaul on Nov 11, 2007 14:41:04 GMT -5
I would really like to think that those of us as parents would know what would be best for our own children and not have to rely on what the school system thinks is best for them. I think true "parent time" will teach a child more useful skills in life than any classroom they could ever sit in. Maybe so even more important to the child that is failing in school. If they had more instruction in life from the ones that are supposed to be caring for them then maybe they would take more responsibility in the classrooms and in there own lives.
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 11, 2007 18:50:35 GMT -5
Maybe I am wrong but I remember talking with a IPS school teacher (I tutor part time through my church) who said that Federal funding calculations factor in attendance. If this is the case than it may have to do more with $$$ than anything.
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Post by schoolmaster on Nov 11, 2007 19:13:53 GMT -5
Well boys I have been a science teacher for 39 years and can't wait to see how the kids did. We compare stories and enjoy it all. Now that being said it wouldn't bother me a bit if any student took some time off to go hunting. Also I believe I am the only staff member that hunts in my school. Some of the ladies have husbands who hunt but that is about it. There are several that fish but no hunters. I get flack from some of my students because I am a hunter but I simply try to be patient and explain the why of it. We have students who take off a week at a time for family vacations etc. so a hunting trip is not any different. I will be taking a few days off this year to hunt myself so what's good for the gander is good for the geese.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 11, 2007 19:17:12 GMT -5
If I had a child in school and wanted to take them hunting in the week I'd do it without hesitation and tell the school exactly what I was doing. Be proud of your sport and stand up against people who shun it. Schools in the upper part of Michigan and Wisconsin do close for opening of deer season. Most businesses do too. Hunting is more of a way of life there.
I recently told my neighbors son who is 10 and loves to hunt that he should never be ashamed of being a hunter. He said he was afraid to tell his teacher what he did over the weekend which was the youth deer hunt because of what she might say. h.h.
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Post by hoosierhunter2 on Nov 11, 2007 20:42:09 GMT -5
My how the world has changed so much in such a short amount of time!!!! Like stated before... it is YOUR child, and you would know what is best for your child, not the school system, which in other words is THE GOVERNMENT!!!! They want to pound their agenda into your child (too bad it isn't just simple educations anymore!!  ). I say go for it!! I gaurantee what they miss for a few days of school will never make up for the time spent with dad, and the life lessons learned while out hunting!!!!! As a matter of fact... it's too bad more dad's aren't involved to that point with their children!! This right here is a perfect example of why my wife and I have made the decision with our own children to homeschool! |
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 11, 2007 20:53:23 GMT -5
If the kid is doing good in school missing a couple days for quality time wont hurt them.
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Post by danf on Nov 11, 2007 21:09:39 GMT -5
not the school system, which in other words is THE GOVERNMENT!!!! They want to pound their agenda into your child (too bad it isn't just simple educations anymore!! Not to get too far off-topic, but you do need to realize there is a HUGE difference between the government (as it's "traditionally" known) and the school system, especially the teachers. Most of the teachers have no agenda of their own, what they are trying to shove down the throats of the kids is getting shoved up their own backsides against their will. There's a lot of people in the government to blame for this, both at the federal and state level. AFAIK, even though you are homeschooling your kids, they will still be held to the same standards as other publicly educated students.... |
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Post by duff on Nov 11, 2007 21:26:50 GMT -5
not the school system, which in other words is THE GOVERNMENT!!!! They want to pound their agenda into your child (too bad it isn't just simple educations anymore!! Not to get too far off-topic, but you do need to realize there is a HUGE difference between the government (as it's "traditionally" known) and the school system, especially the teachers. Most of the teachers have no agenda of their own, what they are trying to shove down the throats of the kids is getting shoved up their own backsides against their will. There's a lot of people in the government to blame for this, both at the federal and state level. AFAIK, even though you are homeschooling your kids, they will still be held to the same standards as other publicly educated students.... Ditto, don't let Rush get into your brains too much. Most teachers are harmless and not rabid liberals here to steal our kids from us and make them demonrats. I bet there are as many extreme right wingers as there are extreme left teaching our youths, most are just everyday Dick and janes like you and me. Working for a paycheck. I get tired of blanket statements based on profession. I work in the environmental field and most assume I am a left wing granola crunching Al Gore preaching, tree hugging.... until they talk with me for a while. Actually of the 10 people in my department only 1 is a true blue democrat, a few fence sitters like myself, and the rest republicans. Yet everyone in the plant is sure we worship Al...I just play along with it now and get them all fired up. I enjoy picking a side and running with it for a while, just depends on who I am talking to as to which side I run with. I guess my wife is right, I just like to pick fights...thanks for the help guys!!! |
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Post by Dan Reeves on Nov 11, 2007 22:08:11 GMT -5
I know it's not really school, but my son's preschool teacher that it was awesome that I was taking him out of school to go deer hunting.
It may make a difference that it is a private christian school?
I wouldn't care if they agreed or not, if I felt he should go he will.
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Post by hoosierhunter2 on Nov 12, 2007 0:52:10 GMT -5
Not a right winger... I've probably only heard Rush 1 or 2, and really can't stand the guy (hypocritical)... I made no statement about teachers, mainly speaking of the whole education system in general. I'm sure there are still alot of good teachers and well intentioned, but the main point is this... We choose to teach our children what is important and instill our values in our children, not what the government and education system decides to brain wash our kids with what they decide is right and wrong (i.e. theory of evolution, relevance, and tolerance of things that are not for them to decide to teach is right to my children), not to mention the the personal agenda of more and more individual teachers, it only takes one to ruin your child!! And whether we want to believe it or not... The government does set the cirriculum with state and fed. funding, We know all about it... my wife taught in the public school for several years before we had our children! Anyway, sorry to jump all over this thread, but really it is the point of it, I believe, the freedom to raise our children as we see to be right, and it's not an easy task to be taken lightly. And to inform about homeschooling here in Indiana, the children are not held to the same standards as public school, there is not a set number of days for schooling, and there is not mandatory testing, therefore there is alot more freedom to set our own schedule. I'm not saying we don't do schooling everyday, usually we try to follow the same dates as the regular school year, but for one it doesn't take all day like public school, they get their schooling done in several hours, not 7 hrs. like public, and if we decide to do something one day, we have the freedom to do that. Plus we have the freedom to accel with our kids to continually challenge them! I gaurantee if you were to test our children they would be FAR ahead of public schoolers, plus more than the national average of 70% of ours will graduate!!!
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Post by inhunter on Nov 12, 2007 2:36:22 GMT -5
Damn'd if you do and damn't if you don't? don't know it that will get censored or not, But the biggest thing we as hunters need to do is pass our passion along to te next generation. Right? I have no children but have a nephew that loves to hunt @ 12 if I didn't have to work opening weekend I would have him set up at dawn if it was a school day I would I would pitch a good arguement with my brother to let him lay out of school. We as hunters know if young or old freinds or family have the passion to hunt if they do, I say do everything you can to assist them in enjoying what nature has to offer. Beisdes all that boys grab your hats because we are about to witness the best week of deer hunting this year! and if you got a bow in your hand sit back pick a good one and cherish it the rest of your life! this is going to be a good week seen bucks chasing all week, and seen the one I want and wouldn't leave the doe he was with, but haven't we all been there?
summary to my rambling's if a youth or child has the passion to hunt let them lay out of school you will build on something that can and probaly never will be taught in a classroom!
Have some freinds in Southern Illionis they cancel school this coming friday soley due to deer season! (opening w/e)
Just my thougths
Darn colts!
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Post by cambygsp on Nov 12, 2007 4:19:20 GMT -5
My son is an A-B student, he always has been, his grades are much better than mine were when I went to school.
I take him out to go hunting quite frequently, He has been taken out early three Friday's so far this year, so that we could get down there and hunt the afternoon.
I was planning on taking him out this Friday but for some reason (staff development day) there is no school November 16.
Last year we hunted the entire first week of gun season and he missed several days then, but I have a new job this year so I can't miss that much work.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 12, 2007 5:05:27 GMT -5
Actually, while there is not a set number of days when you home school there is a minimum number of days, how you get them in is up to you.
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). I say go for it!! I gaurantee what they miss for a few days of school will never make up for the time spent with dad, and the life lessons learned while out hunting!!!!! As a matter of fact... it's too bad more dad's aren't involved to that point with their children!! This right here is a perfect example of why my wife and I have made the decision with our own children to homeschool! 
