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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 11, 2008 19:39:40 GMT -5
Just wondered if anyone has had any luck with slowing depredation down in an area. It would seem hunting land owners and farmers that don't allow it would have some rights as to if and when it should stop in an area.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 11, 2008 21:19:41 GMT -5
Not really.
The only thing that slows down the farmer that farms near me is if the field is in corn.
When it is in beans he shoots all he wants.. no matter what the DNR says. Knowing he is doing it and catching him is two different things.
Mayeb woodmaster can come on here and tell about his buddy's place that get hammered right next door.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 12, 2008 7:24:21 GMT -5
This is a special case of two farmers bent on slaughtering every deer they can get, burn or bury. Antlered deer are being taken. Several landowners are ready to do something about it. The DNR is going to hear observations from them about the herd being down to 1/3 normal in the area and what is sustainable. DNR is giving out too many tags. It is a 3 bonus area with plenty of hunters that shoot does. I'll let you know how it goes, should be interesting. The local CO is not happy with it. Thanks for any input.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 12, 2008 8:16:22 GMT -5
That sounds like a bad deal. At least you have the CO on board with you.
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Post by tickman1961 on Dec 12, 2008 10:13:47 GMT -5
Best of luck to you freedomhunter, is it in your county or out of your county?
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 12, 2008 10:22:18 GMT -5
It is right there around New Hope and Freedom, one of them was in the Spencer paper the last time he got close to 50. Between the two of them it is up to around 50 every year. It would be nice if they only did it every 3 years. I've moved to another area to shoot does. It really messes up the hunting.
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Post by tickman1961 on Dec 12, 2008 10:29:24 GMT -5
I know one big farmer down there owns a Fortune, so to speak...and others in the area that lease out hunting rights...
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 12, 2008 11:07:24 GMT -5
I don't know if they farm Fortune or not. It is pretty sickening what you can legally do, they even have local cops in on their summer sniping parties. Probably won't be able to do much about it, but going to try with a bunch of local hunters and owner's input to help.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 18:31:38 GMT -5
woody how bout the co that lives right where you are talking about he does nothing and I know he could see him shooting from his house
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Post by woodmaster on Dec 13, 2008 12:50:07 GMT -5
A buddy of mine owns 80 acres in Warrick county. The farmer who farms the land next to him bragged about killing 35 deer during September. 11 of them where bucks. He continued to tell my buddy that he usually shoots them in the guts so they don't die in his fields.
Last month a guy at work ,who also does taxidermy, work showed us a pic of a 150+ buck that the farmer killed and was getting it mounted.
Makes me sick to hear of deer going to waste like that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2008 20:23:20 GMT -5
woodmaster I know we are talking about the same guy he farms some ground on coles creek rd, where a friend of mine hunts and found 3 or 4 deer dead and supposedly shot the buck you are talking about right behind a co,s house boy that takes balls r eally don,t know if i should put his name on here or not i,m sure that anyone who hunts around there knows who it is
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Post by inhunter on Dec 14, 2008 2:44:03 GMT -5
Last month a guy at work ,who also does taxidermy, work showed us a pic of a 150+ buck that the farmer killed and was getting it mounted.
If I remember right some people in like arkansas or somewhere in the south got in trouble shooting a big deer and getting it mounted? Does Indiana have the same law like that?
I was thinking the whole point of the depredation permit was to slow the deer eating their crop not shoot deer to hang on the wall. Might be wrong here but if you can shoot the with any gun you choose then take them in and get a mount made is way out of line! maybe the will get a frame and put under the deer shot with a rifle in september!
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Post by tenring on Dec 14, 2008 13:18:54 GMT -5
Depredation permits do not allow for the keeping of antlers, they must be turned in to the local CO, plain, pure, and simple. If not, the individual is subject to arrest. And the taxidermist is subject to arrest and forfeiture of his license also.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 14, 2008 16:41:51 GMT -5
I believe the DNR has stopped messing with taking the antlers from these two farmers, plus they have told them it is o.k. to bury or burn in place. Nice, illegal wanton waste being encouraged, don't get it. Probably the best thing to do is contact all owners that they farm and have them shut down. Then they will just have their own properties to decimate the herd on.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 14, 2008 16:56:08 GMT -5
I believe the DNR has stopped messing with taking the antlers from these two farmers, plus they have told them it is o.k. to bury or burn in place. Nice, illegal wanton waste being encouraged, don't get it. Probably the best thing to do is contact all owners that they farm and have them shut down. Then they will just have their own properties to decimate the herd on. Not sure that COs have that descretion to allow the depredators to keep the antlers. Not the way I understand it. Buster?? Maybe it is time you kicked it up stairs? I sent you the email address of the people "up stairs". |
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 14, 2008 17:15:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, the CO will probably pay them a visit regarding antlers.
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Post by racktracker on Dec 15, 2008 14:27:48 GMT -5
www.co.allen.in.us/images/stories/pdf/ach175.pdfNUISANCE DEERDeer hunting during the normal season is the most efficient and effective way to reduce deer numbers on your property. Deer hunting seasons and bag limits are very liberal currently, and in most situations will adequately control deer if you allow reasonable hunting pressure. Deer Control Permits are issued to landowners who are experiencing damage to crops or trees on their land outside the legal hunting season. Landowners must have a district wildlife biologist inspect the damage while the crop is present, and show a minimum of $500 damage. If qualified, a landowner or farmer may be issued a Deer Control Permit, lasting up to 30 days, to kill up to ten deer. The landowner may shoot the deer or designate up to five other people to kill deer. The deer must be retrieved and processed for human consumption. Antlers may not be kept. Non-lethal control methods such as repellents and fencing are available and work in some circumstances. A booklet titled "Managing Deer Damage" is available from the DNR; additional information is available from USDA APHIS ADC. Managing Deer Damagewww.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/12719.htm
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