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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 13, 2008 18:02:38 GMT -5
If you think some of the guys here are harsh & biased... Tolerance fails T-shirt test"People were upset. But they started saying things, calling me very stupid, telling me my shirt was stupid and I shouldn't be wearing it," (14y/o) Catherine said. Then it got worse. "One person told me to go die. It was a lot of dying. A lot of comments about how I should be killed," Catherine said, of the tolerance in Oak Park..... www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-13-nov13,0,2881384.column?page=1
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 13, 2008 19:49:24 GMT -5
If you think some of the guys here are harsh & biased... Tolerance fails T-shirt test"People were upset. But they started saying things, calling me very stupid, telling me my shirt was stupid and I shouldn't be wearing it," (14y/o) Catherine said. Then it got worse. "One person told me to go die. It was a lot of dying. A lot of comments about how I should be killed," Catherine said, of the tolerance in Oak Park..... www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-13-nov13,0,2881384.column?page=1 In the twisted thinking of the discriminating liberal, somehow superficial diversity is the greatest thing and will save us all, but diversity of thought or political position is terrible and should be squashed without regard for the fallout. I've been in environments like this for the past 8 years (colleges and social service agencies), and I can sadly attest to some of these observations firsthand. Once I heard a professor say--at the end of a lecture on diversity and its importance, mind you--that conservative individuals could not be good mental health professionals. If that's not discrimination, I don't know what is. You definitely feel very isolated and ostracized sometimes--not a good feeling, especially over a long period of time. Sometimes I start to feel a little physically ill when a group of liberal people bring up politics and I have to be a part of the discussion. You also feel a pressure to "moderate" what you say, because the people who are discriminatory oftentimes have power over your grade, opportunities you get, etc. It sounds like a sellout on my part, but it can be a real threat. It's the toughest to be in these environments around election times for sure, or whenever the liberals hate (or love?) any aspect of the political atmosphere and can't stop talking about their views. I reference a previous post-- huntingindiana.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=22607&page=1#184402
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 13, 2008 22:40:45 GMT -5
In thinking about this issue, I stumbled across this interesting "blog" entry-- www.gaypatriot.net/2008/10/08/why-it-matters-to-come-out-as-a-gay-republican/Although I am very much a heterosexual, I can absolutely identify with what is said here about the process of "coming out" as a conservative when you spend a significant amount of time in liberal environments and everyone assumes you are liberal as a result of your "niche" in society. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it actually is a process of deciding who you are going to tell and thinking about the consequences of disclosing your views given the (usually silent or passive) discrimination that takes place in some of these liberal-rich environments. Very, very sad--but true. Soooo true!
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Nov 13, 2008 22:51:11 GMT -5
95% of Black voters voted to Obama; image what the 5% went through.
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Post by Decatur on Nov 14, 2008 3:17:53 GMT -5
I'm not at all surprised.
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 14, 2008 23:12:03 GMT -5
Update: The latest sentiment from an individual in the "party of tolerance"...apparently we conservatives are now "backward hicks" for not supporting Obama. Sick, sick, sick and very disappointing. Some people can be so prejudiced and ignorant.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 15, 2008 9:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 15, 2008 9:27:56 GMT -5
Ironsights-- excellent and very well-reasoned/well-written blog post! Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you and your observations about cultural/sociological trends in rural areas. Maybe that's why I respect and enjoy rural people so much. I have largely gravitated away from my urban childhood friends (now with left-wing young adult urban attitudes apparently), one of whom made the upsetting "backward hicks" statement. And they like to say that the right is un-humanitarian... The urban left seems to stand up for all cultures that forward their agenda while ignoring--and putting down, as the quote shows--those cultures that are more invisible and less politically "appealing" to them yet so important to life in America. We need the values of self-sufficiency and personal responsibility desperately modeled and encouraged in society today, and those characteristics are and have always been embraced by most rural folks. (Another observation that is not political regarding urban consideration of "rural" folks--all the young urbanites I'm in contact with around here always complain when the FFA convention comes to Indy, and I seem to be the only one who would love to jump out of the car in rush-hour traffic, run up to the FFA kids, and tell them how happy I am that they are doing what they are doing and that they are here. It's kind of frustrating, I must admit.)
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Post by chicobrownbear on Nov 15, 2008 11:22:59 GMT -5
I'm going to have to push the independant thought alarm on greyhound and OI.
OI your blog address now has a place of honor in my bookmarks.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 15, 2008 19:49:08 GMT -5
Thanks Greyhound/Chico. I've posted articles there on & off (mostly off) for a while.
I'm trying to keep up a steady Saturday Morning Byline this time. That was my second post since the name change.
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 15, 2008 21:09:01 GMT -5
Thanks Greyhound/Chico. I've posted articles there on & off (mostly off) for a while. I'm trying to keep up a steady Saturday Morning Byline this time. That was my second post since the name change. You're welcome--thanks for letting us know! Not to hijack the thread, but you really have a talent for coming up with unique analytical insights and then writing about them in a very compelling way. I will definitely check for future updates. (Have you ever thought about publishing??) By the way, I got a kick out of the South Park-esque avatar on your profile--I don't know how you did that, but it was amusing. I've thought about getting a Butters avatar--maybe I'll do that one of these days.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 15, 2008 21:43:17 GMT -5
You're welcome--thanks for letting us know! Not to hijack the thread, but you really have a talent for coming up with unique analytical insights and then writing about them in a very compelling way. I will definitely check for future updates. (Have you ever thought about publishing??) FWIW, I have been published. I just haven't been regular enough in output to warrant a paid gig. If I can stay consistent with a weekly Screed, maybe I can do somthing with it. By the way, I got a kick out of the South Park-esque avatar on your profile--I don't know how you did that, but it was amusing. I've thought about getting a Butters avatar--maybe I'll do that one of these days. My Avatar is actually my picture... taken at South Park on a visit to Colorado. A kid named Kyle took it just before I attended a Bar Mitzvah for the son of a Denver Rabbi I know... I was told that there is a large magnetic field in/around South Park that distorts Digital Images, so the pictures come out kind of odd. Compare: The more "normal" photo was taken a couple years earlier before my camera got screwed up by the magnetic field in South Park. FWIW, I actually am that bald now... ;D
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 16, 2008 7:42:44 GMT -5
A likely story... Whoever did the avatar did a great job! I know you're great at handling your firepower, but you had to have hung the 12-gauge on the wall before you took that picture. Too much firepower for your right hand! And the sunglasses are a nice addition. South Park is the greatest cartoon of our current time, by the way...can't wait to hear how they pick on Obama and all the celebrities who supported him! (I am not Libertarian by any stretch of the imagination but have always been sympathetic to and understanding of their beliefs--therefore, I love the South Park creators' political and societal statements.)
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