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Post by lugnutz on Nov 1, 2008 0:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 1, 2008 2:56:11 GMT -5
I don't want the government in the health care business - in fact I want the government in as little as possible. "A moral right to health care" - the nanny state attitude by the left just makes me ill. More socialist drivel from the Post - I heard on the radio that the major liberal papers are seeing their numbers fall through the basrment. The NYT's shares are now rated "junk".
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 1, 2008 5:19:30 GMT -5
I don't want the government in the health care business - in fact I want the government in as little as possible. "A moral right to health care" - the nanny state attitude by the left just makes me ill. More socialist drivel from the Post - I heard on the radio that the major liberal papers are seeing their numbers fall through the basrment. The NYT's shares are now rated "junk".  |
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 2, 2008 17:20:55 GMT -5
If true, how would this be different than now?
Just try and get insurance with a preexisting condition.
But then, I don't want "inclusive" insurance. I want (and have) Catestrophic insurance and pay for the rest at a Cash Basis discount.... which the Dems have steadfastly fought.
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 2, 2008 17:23:35 GMT -5
Good point.
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Post by huxbux on Nov 3, 2008 7:31:17 GMT -5
I don't want the government in the health care business - in fact I want the government in as little as possible. "A moral right to health care" - the nanny state attitude by the left just makes me ill. More socialist drivel from the Post - I heard on the radio that the major liberal papers are seeing their numbers fall through the basrment. The NYT's shares are now rated "junk". +2 Considering the fact that everything the government sticks their nose in ends up costing twice as much and the end result is half as satisfactory, why in the world would anyone want their "help". |
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 3, 2008 10:22:42 GMT -5
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Post by lugnutz on Nov 3, 2008 22:18:42 GMT -5
I don't want the government in the health care business - in fact I want the government in as little as possible. "A moral right to health care" - the nanny state attitude by the left just makes me ill. More socialist drivel from the Post - I heard on the radio that the major liberal papers are seeing their numbers fall through the basrment. The NYT's shares are now rated "junk". +2 Considering the fact that everything the government sticks their nose in ends up costing twice as much and the end result is half as satisfactory, why in the world would anyone want their "help". such as the $5000 tax break, and other tax incentives correct? |
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 4, 2008 5:22:58 GMT -5
No tax breaks, no rebates - don't steal it from us in the first place, if we didn't have an out of control government they wouldn't need all the revenue in th first place.
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Post by huxbux on Nov 4, 2008 7:06:36 GMT -5
As dbd870 so succinctly pointed out, it's your money to begin with lug, so the government isn't "giving" you anything. Pretty simple.
To illustrate my point, please explain why government run schools spend TWICE the amount of money per pupil than private schools and in most cases have a poorer end result.
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 4, 2008 7:50:08 GMT -5
No tax breaks, no rebates - don't steal it from us in the first place, if we didn't have an out of control government they wouldn't need all the revenue in th first place. +2 |
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Post by indianahick on Nov 4, 2008 12:30:48 GMT -5
No matter who brings in Socialized medicine it isn't going to be cheap or good. Osama says that he wants more Dr's and nurses. There are only two ways that I can see of doing this and neither one of them appeal to me. One is to lower the standards for medical schools which would allow lesser skilled persons to become DR's. The second is to bring in more from India, Pakistan, Korea, China.
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Post by huxbux on Nov 4, 2008 16:12:09 GMT -5
No matter who brings in Socialized medicine it isn't going to be cheap or good. Osama says that he wants more Dr's and nurses. There are only two ways that I can see of doing this and neither one of them appeal to me. One is to lower the standards for medical schools which would allow lesser skilled persons to become DR's. The second is to bring in more from India, Pakistan, Korea, China. BINGO! Anyone working in any field related to health care, from pharmaceuticals to hospital janitorial duties will be expected to take a pay reduction to help lower costs under a government run system. It's gonna be a tough sell convincing aspiring docs to endure the hell of med school and residency for a pittance. There will be an inevitable shortage of health care professionals in the near future as has happened in the UK. |
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Post by drgreyhound on Nov 4, 2008 16:43:29 GMT -5
No matter who brings in Socialized medicine it isn't going to be cheap or good. Osama says that he wants more Dr's and nurses. There are only two ways that I can see of doing this and neither one of them appeal to me. One is to lower the standards for medical schools which would allow lesser skilled persons to become DR's. The second is to bring in more from India, Pakistan, Korea, China. BINGO! Anyone working in any field related to health care, from pharmaceuticals to hospital janitorial duties will be expected to take a pay reduction to help lower costs under a government run system. It's gonna be a tough sell convincing aspiring docs to endure the hell of med school and residency for a pittance. There will be an inevitable shortage of health care professionals in the near future as has happened in the UK. BINGO x 2! Not only this, but I will not stand for the government being involved in what goes on between me and my clients. Furthermore, I will not stand for a bureaucrat with no knowledge or training in what I do telling me what I can and can't do with a client--it's bad enough when some insurance company doofuses do this. And yes, we will all have to take a pay cut if health care becomes socialized (Medicaid and Medicare have insulting reimbursement rates AND they continually ask for their money back when services are provided as they ask for and wish!!!)--we went to school for a long time at great personal and financial sacrifice and expect to be compensated accordingly for our work and expertise. Let's keep the government out of healthcare and put people who know and can learn what is best for them in charge of themselves. |
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Post by Decatur on Nov 4, 2008 16:53:21 GMT -5
There's ALREADY a shortage of skilled professionals in health care! Socialized medicine will only make it worse!
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