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Post by swingcut on Oct 11, 2008 14:18:57 GMT -5
If I see this guy I might cull him? But I don't know. I would rather he not pass his genes on. But people could say the same about me LOL.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 11, 2008 14:28:40 GMT -5
I'd shoot him. But I don't care about antlers except to use as rattles...
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 11, 2008 15:38:58 GMT -5
I think he has charater - I'd mount him.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Oct 11, 2008 15:55:12 GMT -5
Is this an invite?
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Post by hoosieroutdoorsman on Oct 11, 2008 16:13:13 GMT -5
As far as genetics go I don`t see anything wrong with him, he looks like 2 1/2 to 3 year old,,give him another year and get some good supplements out for him and you may be surprised what you have next year. Other than that if he came in I would most likely take him,,he is a nice one and would be hard to pass up.
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Post by jimd46902 on Oct 11, 2008 17:24:16 GMT -5
I see what you mean, he has 2 points on the right side and no brow tine with 4 points on the other... something is wrong there.
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Post by beehunter on Oct 11, 2008 18:57:27 GMT -5
Cull? We ain't in Texas IMO. He looks like a nice shooter to me.
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Post by swingcut on Oct 11, 2008 20:15:04 GMT -5
I have multiple shooters I am hunting. This deer is no where close to the top on my list. I'm just wondered if it would be a good idea to take this 4x2 out if he presents the opportunity. So if I lived in Texas I guess it would be ok to shoot?
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Post by hoosieroutdoorsman on Oct 11, 2008 20:20:40 GMT -5
I`d say anywhere you live even outside of texas he would be ok to shoot
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Post by fftce67 on Oct 11, 2008 21:09:09 GMT -5
Meat is meat to me so no antler or this 4x2 I would take just to fill my freezer
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Post by oldrookie on Oct 11, 2008 21:17:33 GMT -5
I'll volunteer to put him down.
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Post by woodmaster on Oct 11, 2008 21:39:54 GMT -5
On the Deer & Deer Hunting show they discussed culling deer. They talked about a ranch that had 2 different areas fenced in . They culled the bucks in one fenced area and shot whatever they wanted in the other.
After several years of this practice the gross scores from both areas where almost identical. It was their opinion that since you can't tell what kind of genes a doe has then you can't really help the herd.
I'd say if you don't want to shoot him...don't. Who knows, maybe your neighbor might end up getting him.
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Post by swingcut on Oct 11, 2008 22:30:15 GMT -5
That is interesting. I just read the new NAW magazine and Dr. Kroll said younger does will be the best breeders, they tend to have sons with larger antlers earlier in life. He had no explanation for this, except that was what his experience has shown. Sound like a great big lotto drawling on the genetics side. But it is a lot easier to remove them than to feed them.
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Post by lonniephillips on Oct 11, 2008 22:41:26 GMT -5
If I had better bucks on my list I would pass the buck until later. If I just wanted to fill my tag ( which was the case 90% of the time when I was deer hunting) or I wanted meet than I'd take him if the chance came like someone posted , it's a personal choice and no one but you can decide
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Post by Decatur on Oct 11, 2008 23:14:22 GMT -5
On the Deer & Deer Hunting show they discussed culling deer. They talked about a ranch that had 2 different areas fenced in . They culled the bucks in one fenced area and shot whatever they wanted in the other. After several years of this practice the gross scores from both areas where almost identical. It was their opinion that since you can't tell what kind of genes a doe has then you can't really help the herd. I'd say if you don't want to shoot him...don't. Who knows, maybe your neighbor might end up getting him. That goes along kinda with the D&D H article I read last year saying that unless you have a HUGE ranch you're wasting your time trying to manage "your" deer herd. The buck dispersal just covers way too much ground to think you are going to only grow big bucks.
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 12, 2008 0:11:54 GMT -5
Decatur-
I remember that as well. I believe they said 500 acres or more was a good starting point.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Oct 12, 2008 5:49:17 GMT -5
Go for the bigger buck that have your sights on if that's what you want. Once the rut kicks in that buck could travel up to 5 miles in his rutting routines. Good chance that your neighbor will get him.
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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 12, 2008 7:15:43 GMT -5
I'd shoot him!
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Post by schall53 on Oct 12, 2008 7:41:07 GMT -5
Cull him, we had a similar buck on our ground two years ago. He was a 4x1, we have been seeing lopsided bucks ever since.
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Post by beehunter on Oct 12, 2008 8:47:36 GMT -5
I have multiple shooters I am hunting. This deer is no where close to the top on my list. I'm just wondered if it would be a good idea to take this 4x2 out if he presents the opportunity. So if I lived in Texas I guess it would be ok to shoot? No my point is you only get one buck tag in Indiana and if you don't shoot him the guy on the next property will, unlike Texas where large propertys are heavily managed for trophies. I don't know what point I was trying to make but I definatly do not like the direction that deer hunting is heading in mainstream America.
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