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Post by dadfsr on Sept 7, 2008 19:20:39 GMT -5
I know I found two on our property this spring that had been obviously poached-looked real similar to the above photo except they cut the back straps out of one. Our CO was contacted and he did come out and look at them but we both agreed there wasn't too much that could be done at that point. However I wouldn't be surprised if "Bucky" showed up around these parts in the future....
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Post by greenhunter5364 on Sept 8, 2008 0:38:50 GMT -5
That photo makes me sick to think that some Hoosier shot that buck only for his rack and left the rest to rot! I had road hunting poachers drive by my property a couple of years ago during MZ season and they killed two small deer. I knew it wasn't a muzzleloader as the shots were fast and furious! They ran back to their truck when they saw me coming and drove away fast leaving the dead deer behind.
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Post by Sasquatch on Sept 8, 2008 8:29:47 GMT -5
A lot of deer off all ages and genders are poached every year. Most, I would guess, are taken by means of using the wife's ( or other family member's) tag. I saw a lot of this when selling tags. I'd ask the woman what bow or gun she was using, or what broadhead, and I got a lot of funny answers.
One thing I think is being overlooked here is not how many deer are being taken, but how many BIG BUCKS are being taken illegally. Far more are spotlighted, shot from the road, and tagged by fake women hunters, than most of us realize.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 8, 2008 9:00:00 GMT -5
I think the numbers would scare us..... If all poaching was stopped we could probably have a TBR.. .
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Sept 8, 2008 10:51:33 GMT -5
We will never be able to tell exactly how many deer are poached each year, there are just too many poachers compared to COs, cops, and other law enforcement to catch them all. I don't think it would be as many as are legally harvested, but you just never know.
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Post by kevin1 on Sept 8, 2008 12:27:30 GMT -5
While I know that poaching is a problem, I'd be surprised if more than 25% of the annual kill was poached. The potential losses if caught are much higher than they used to be.
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Post by jgrimm on Sept 8, 2008 20:10:22 GMT -5
Not sure on all counties but warrick county only has 2 conservation officers so the chance of getting cought is pretty slim. ( pretty sad )
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Post by Decatur on Sept 8, 2008 21:23:01 GMT -5
I think a big problem with poaching is the fact that a lot of hunters know of a poacher first hand, but look the other way because the poacher is a buddy or family member. TIP IDNR!!!
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Post by budfields on Sept 8, 2008 22:14:18 GMT -5
It is sad and I hate to admit it but in the area that I hunt there are a couple land owners that have joked about "IF I AM GOING TO FEED THE DEER, I AM GOING TO SHOOT AS MANY AS I CAN!!!" and they have also stated "NO ONE FROM THE DNR IS GOING TO TELL ME HOW MANY BUCKS I CAN SHOOT.."
I have NOT personally observed them actually "pulling the trigger" and committing the act but I have told them to their faces IF I EVER SAW IT HAPPENING, I WOULD CONTACTED THE DNR MYSELF!! Whether it would do any good..I have NO IDEA but I have seen deer hanging from a tree next to their barn and I have seen them cruising the road real slow and they have been noticed shining lights across the fields before daylight and after dark.
During the early archery deer season, I have heard shots from their side of the creek but they say they are "sighting in their guns" and a number of times, within moments after the shots are heard, I have heard deer crashing through the cover and splashing across the creek to our side.
"We" have found dead deer laying along the creek bank and have actually seen deer limping and hobbling.. This is a SAD sight and you know as well as I do, the HUNTER is getting blamed for these acts of STUPIDIY. I talked with a conservation officer and we were told the person HAS TO BE CAUGHT IN THE ACT but how can anyone get caught IF they won't check them out??
GOOD HUNTING FRIENDS... Bud Fields
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 9, 2008 9:13:46 GMT -5
Thats the problem I have had with Law enforcement in general...on more than a couple occasions. They want you to do their job for them. I dont think the CO ever even checked or looked at the deer in the pic.(and he lives just 3/4 of a mile up the road from my woods).
I also had an apartment broke into and vandalized a few years back. I was at work. Wife called police. The "perps" had taken a shotgun off the wall and left it in a bathroom for some reason. Wife is on the phone with me while they are there. They didint dust for prints or anything. I MADE them take my shotgun in to process for prints(a winchester 1300 all black)
They bring it back a few days later...filthy as a two dollar ho....coverd in BLACK fingerprint powder.Who the he11 they think they was foolin? I was a CO major in college, I know you use a CONTRASTING print powder so you can see what your looking for.
They told me they could only get a partial, BS. I told them as much as well.
Another time had mail stolen, knew who did it and seen My mail in her car, plain sight. Told the cops, they wouldnt do a damn thing. WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY!!!!
I have zero use for our local law enforcement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by indianaboy on Sept 9, 2008 13:58:29 GMT -5
I know the CO's here make many, many cases after season is over. Go threw all the check in records and any that are fishy they investigate. Lot of times it is the "wife or the kids" that killed it. And after talking with them they admit that it was them and it was the husband or father. Now that is not saying that plenty of women and children dont kill there own deer. That's just what the majority of cases that are made end up being.
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Post by rivrbottmstalkr on Sept 9, 2008 18:48:37 GMT -5
I think that most of the illegal deer taken are from the wives, girlfriends, children of hunters that are killing the deer themselves. That is a much harder thing to prove or get caught at than spotlighting using rifles, ect. Either way, it's a sad state of affairs and one that's hard to get control of or know the true extent of the damage. But it is always the good hunter that gets the blame for the idiots.
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