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Post by turkeyscout on Sept 2, 2008 6:38:28 GMT -5
HEY GUYS, some of the folks on here need some help you just got to have a good place to hunt! RIGHT, there are some" do and do nots"on asking permission, heres' a tip, buy a platt book at the county court house of where you plan to hunt. you need to find the right owner, and address the owner by his name, another tip is timing your visit, not at dinner time ,a good time is earily spring on a rainny day,.please add you tip to help our fellow sportsman and gals.....thanks.. TAKE A YOUNGSTER ON YOUR NEXT OUTDOOR EXPERIENCE......turkey scout
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Sept 2, 2008 8:59:27 GMT -5
I like to be in the same places as some farmers and landowners.I do some shopping at a couple local feed stores and hang out at some farmers market type things...Most of the places I have permission to hunt are friends of mine who I went to school or church with...I'm always asking people I know if there is anyone they know who allows hunting.I've gone from one 20 acre block of woods to 7 different properties with over 2500 acres to hunt,It's hard for me to hunt half of it.
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 2, 2008 11:03:23 GMT -5
some great advice. It is all in the relationship you have, you have to get to know landowners and really gain their trust. Might take time or a couple years asking or getting to know them before they give you the OK. Getting a reccomendation or a family connection is a great way to gain access also. Having family that own hunting ground aint bad either..... I like to be in the same places as some farmers and landowners.I do some shopping at a couple local feed stores and hang out at some farmers market type things...Most of the places I have permission to hunt are friends of mine who I went to school or church with...I'm always asking people I know if there is anyone they know who allows hunting.I've gone from one 20 acre block of woods to 7 different properties with over 2500 acres to hunt,It's hard for me to hunt half of it.
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Post by Sleazy E on Sept 2, 2008 11:38:36 GMT -5
A couple of things I learned by trial and error.....
Don't show up wearing camo... try a nice pair of hiking boot and nice jeans and a flannel shirt... if you show up in camo.. they will get the impression that youa re ready to just walk on back as soon as they say yes.
Let them know that you are not a trophy only hunter, and that you intend to take "X" number of does each year, this lets them know that you will actually help them out with their population this helping to control crop damage.
Offer up some of the meat... and/or labor in trade for hunting.... most of the places that have permission to hunt I have had permission since I was a teenager.... I would put up hay, or cut up firewood for the owners in return for permission to hunt their land. A couple places me and a buddy have permission for now we got permission by laying carpet (by referral from other people) and when the job was done... asking them about the land they owned and if they allowed hunting. We still get paid for the job although we admittedly lower the price if the owners give us permission (we don't make that offer to them... we just ask and if they say yes then we lower the price and each take a pay cut).
Let them know that you will follow what ever rules they have for hunting.. and that you will respect the land and leave as good or better than you found it. The secret to keeping permission is keeping the owner happy... Your first trip out take a trash bag with you and pick up any trash you see while looking around.... If they see you working to make their place nice... they will almost always allow you on their land unless they get bitten by the money bug and decide to lease it.
Ask for yourself..... don't show up at the door and ask if you and your buddies can hunt their land... this will make them uneasy as buddies could be 2 more... or it could be 10 more people.... get permission for yourself and your child if you plan to take them... and let it be for a couple of years... before asking to bring anyone else back.... let them get to know you and be comfortable with you and if you leave a good impression...
Don't expect an answer while you stand there... leave them your name and phone number and tell them that you understand if they feel the need to discuss it with co-owners... or other hunters that have permission... and tell them that they can call you back at a later date if it would be more convenient for them.
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Post by kevin1 on Sept 2, 2008 12:15:04 GMT -5
Taking along a copy of the permission form from the IDNR hunting guide will also help.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Sept 2, 2008 13:23:42 GMT -5
I like to be in the same places as some farmers and landowners.I do some shopping at a couple local feed stores and hang out at some farmers market type things...Most of the places I have permission to hunt are friends of mine who I went to school or church with...I'm always asking people I know if there is anyone they know who allows hunting.I've gone from one 20 acre block of woods to 7 different properties with over 2500 acres to hunt,It's hard for me to hunt half of it. If you need some help hunting the other half just holler : )
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Post by whiteoak on Sept 2, 2008 13:33:52 GMT -5
Several years ago there was some ground I wanted to hunt. The owner said no. I started dating his daughter. It worked for a couple years. Man it was great......the hunting ground wasn't to bad either.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Greenedog on Sept 2, 2008 14:13:38 GMT -5
Taking along a copy of the permission form from the IDNR hunting guide will also help. .....or a business card with all your contact info.
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Post by mullis56 on Sept 2, 2008 14:48:59 GMT -5
Taking along a copy of the permission form from the IDNR hunting guide will also help. .....or a business card with all your contact info. Both good ideas....also do your homework is the KEY like TurkeyScout said! Don't ask folks that are obviously hunters themselves or purchase land to have hunting land for permission, ask farmers!! Keep the ideas coming....
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Post by duff on Sept 2, 2008 17:41:39 GMT -5
Ask for a day or two first. After you are done go back, thank them and ask if they would mind if you come back to ask to hunt again at a later date.
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Post by schall53 on Sept 2, 2008 18:24:28 GMT -5
Don't ever stop and ask a farmer for permission to hunt in the fall while he is working. I will guarantee you that if he is on a tractor or combine and you bother him you will not get to hunt his property. Plan ahead and stop in during the summer when they have a little slack time.
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 2, 2008 19:33:59 GMT -5
Those farmers around my area have to be handled very carefully,They are touchy about a lot of things. Here lately a big check seems to help gain access for property to hunt.
Not that I think that is wrong on there part.
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Post by oldhoyt on Sept 3, 2008 6:31:43 GMT -5
Here's a tip. Try not to laugh when the landowner comes to the door in his underwear. Happened to me yesterday. Did get permission though.
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Post by turkeyscout on Sept 3, 2008 6:36:31 GMT -5
after its o.k. to hunt.. .while you are talking to the farmer or landowner,ask him where the best place he wants' you to park at(i'll be driving this truck), some of my spots to hunt the owner wants' me to call first,just to let them know,and i always do that!!(get there phone number and have a pen) as stated before give them yours, and above all ,don't ask or bring someone back or bring your buddies along, this is not the time,maybe later!! i have never been turned down and i don't want to hunt just anywhere! hope this info helps.... ...and its a good idea when knocking on the door is to stand back, say fifteen feet ,you do want to crowd them, they don't know you yet, and a kid or gramma might open the door, its called RESPECT!!!.....THEN BE RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!GOOD LUCK......turkey scout
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Post by dburkhead on Sept 3, 2008 8:42:19 GMT -5
Thanks for creating this thread.
From what I see here though, it looks like I'll be sticking to public land this year and start looking into private land next year, when I can start earlier.
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Post by raporter on Sept 3, 2008 12:47:47 GMT -5
Good thread here Turkeyscout. Folks as TS is well aware some of these hunting property owners get to be family. He and I both hunted one property that is in the third generation of operation for us to have permission. When we had picnics or get togethers in the area they were invited, and came. We would take them out to eat, go to their anniversary parties and so on. I have not hunted that place for 10 years now but still have standing permission anytime I want to go back. That is the kind of relationship that can develope.
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Post by steiny on Sept 3, 2008 18:58:50 GMT -5
Don't overlook places that don't appear to be the greatest hunting spots in the world. I have killed a number of good deer in wide open farm sections that have maybe only a fence row the deer travel on, or a little wet area full of weeds. These are great security spots when the guns start popping, and generally much easier to gain access to -vs- prime thickets or wood lots.
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