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Post by 10point on Jul 23, 2008 7:25:53 GMT -5
Okay you electricians, our bathrooms have no electrical outlets and one has no exhaust fan. I am wanting to add an exhaust fan for sure and maybe an outlet. How do I do this?
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Post by powderfinger on Jul 23, 2008 7:34:28 GMT -5
carefully
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 23, 2008 7:36:59 GMT -5
Tap into an exsisting circuit in the attic for the fan. The outlet needs to be on a GFI circuit.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 23, 2008 8:50:52 GMT -5
absolutley use a gfi, you can add up to 5 outlets after the gfi if you want more than one in your bathroom, just dont pull from a lighting circuit....tends to trip the gfi.
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Post by 10point on Jul 23, 2008 9:19:31 GMT -5
What's is a GFI circuit?
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 23, 2008 9:26:53 GMT -5
Ground Fault Interrupter circuit from your main that has institaneous trip switches built into the outlets with reset buttons to work in conjunction with the circuit breaker in your main panel. These are used in areas such as kitchens, bathrooms, & outside receptecals where the potential for amperage overload due to the electricity wanting to take an accidental fault to ground. Particullary important in proximity to sinks, tubs, showers, etc... Good luck!
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Post by firstwd on Jul 23, 2008 9:27:05 GMT -5
GFCI.... Ground Fault Circuit Indicator. It the outlets with the "reset"button in the middle of them. Eventually it puts a 10 to 15 amp breaker right there at the outlet instead of having to trip the one in the breaker box. This prevents excess wear on wiring in "high trip" areas of the house, any where there is water close.
If you have not done residential wiring before, I would recommend hiring this out or at least have someone who does know what they are doing help walk you through the steps. While the outlets are labeled, they can easily be wired in backwards. If you add down line outlets, a backwards GFCI will be useless.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 23, 2008 9:42:07 GMT -5
A ground-fault circuit-interrupter is not an overcurrent device like a fuse or circuit breaker. GFCI's are designed to sense an imbalance in current flow over the normal path.
A GFCI will open the circuit if 5mA or more of current returns to the service entrance by any path other than the intended white (grounded) conductor. If the grounding conductor is properly installed and maintained, this will happen as soon as the faulty tool is plugged in.
If by chance this grounding conductor is not intact and of low-impedance, the GFCI may not trip out until a person provides a path. In this case, the person will receive a shock, but the GFCI should trip out quickly so that the shock will not be harmful.
If you do not know exactly what you are doing - hire an electrician. They don'tt come cheap, but it couldl save your's or a loved one's life.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 23, 2008 9:54:54 GMT -5
thank you Woody, you beat me to it. On all points.
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Post by dadfsr on Jul 23, 2008 10:46:43 GMT -5
Short story-don't ask me ;D Danf can fill you in on details if you really want to know  |
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Post by danf on Jul 23, 2008 12:21:53 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D Something about a closet light barely glowing when the vacuum cleaner was running, right? ;D ;D ;D Yeah, don't ask dadfsr for wiring help!  |
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Post by HuntMeister on Jul 23, 2008 12:23:44 GMT -5
First off thanks Woody for getting the correct definition of a GFCI out there. 10point, I suggest you do a dedicated 20-AMP 120-VOLT circuit for your GFCI outlet in each bathroom. Make sure you use a minimun size of 12GA wiring with a grounding wire, aka 12-2 WG Romex. 14GA is NOT big enough for a 20-AMP circuit. If you want to do muliple outlets in each bathroom you should be OK to connect them to the same dedicated circuit for the respective room. Like DEERTRACKS said you should be OK to connect your fan to a 120-VOLT circuit in the attic. I would also add that if you do not know what you are doing, hire a qualified installer to do the task. Trust me, it could save you alot in the long run and I'm not talking just money here. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 23, 2008 12:49:09 GMT -5
2005 NEC:
Art 210.11 (C) (3)
In addition to the number of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at least one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to supply bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall have no other outlets.
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Post by 10point on Jul 23, 2008 14:09:37 GMT -5
I would also add that if you do not know what you are doing, hire a qualified installer to do the task. Trust me, it could save you alot in the long run and I'm not talking just money here. I might just hire someone but my Grandpa is an electrician but lives out of state and my brother is a EE from Stanford so he can probably figure it out. |
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Post by 10point on Jul 31, 2008 13:10:45 GMT -5
I got the electric part of adding the fan done and it wasn't to hard. Just called my Grandpa up and also did some reading. I did not end up adding an outlet. Wife said since the bathroom is so small there wasn't enough room to do her hair in their anyways. I replaced the sincgle pole swith with a double switch.
I am now trying to determine how to vent this thing. I was hoping to just vent through the soffit but after doing some research it sounds like that might not be the best idea and that venting through the roof is best. Only problem is it would have to go out through the second story and I am not sure if I can get on the roof and don't really want to. May have to hire someone for this.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 31, 2008 14:24:15 GMT -5
I got the electric part of adding the fan done and it wasn't to hard. Just called my Grandpa up and also did some reading. I did not end up adding an outlet. Wife said since the bathroom is so small there wasn't enough room to do her hair in their anyways. I replaced the sincgle pole swith with a double switch. I am now trying to determine how to vent this thing. I was hoping to just vent through the soffit but after doing some research it sounds like that might not be the best idea and that venting through the roof is best. Only problem is it would have to go out through the second story and I am not sure if I can get on the roof and don't really want to. May have to hire someone for this. Mine is just vented to the attic. From there any smell/moisture will gooput the roof ridge vent. |
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