Out-Of-State PCR Comments

"Your" is possessive; I think you mean the contraction "you're".

What hunting-related subject is there to post about right now? I didn't get to turkey hunt this season due to massive overtime at work (gotta pay for that $2500 PCR anyway.) I haven't fished for at least 5 years, not to mention that my lifetime license only covers hunting. It's too hot to be out chasing coyotes on private ground. I guess I could break out my .50 BMG for a little deer depravation hunting if that's in season already. I guess I'll have to call my buddy in Jackson County to find out. I'll even post pics of the damage caused by a 750-grain bullet if I do just for you.

I can't post about scouting topics because I don't scout. I study aerial photos and topographical maps to choose my stand sites. Most of my sites don't even contain buck sign, so why stink up the woods searching for trace evidence?

Add in the fact that I help with administrative duties on a web board with well over 125,000 members, and you can easily see where most of my time goes. Then I also post regularly on at least 5 others forums, so I'm spread a little too thin to post about hunting topics on a regular basis.

Since it's a dead time of year for most hunting topics, that pretty much only leaves PCR and OBR discussions. I am against OBR like you are against PCR's, but you don't see me crying and making up excuses about it passing. I attended a meeting over 5 years ago in Seymour regarding the OBR, and the majority of those in attendance were against the OBR. And you know what? It passed anyway. I've already come to the conclusion that when the DNR holds meeting regarding an issue, it's already pretty much a done deal, and they're going to do what they want. They wanted the OBR and PCR, so they both passed. I've accepted it and moved on. If it weren't for everyone making up excuses now about PCR's passing, it'd be a dead issue with me as well.

The longer I look at this thing of non-resident comment, the more fence sitting I do. Really, the main downside I see to the non-resident comment is out of state ARA's flooding the comment process.

On some issues it really don't matter how they come out, as sporting folks win either way, but if and when we start "voting" on weather or not we are going to HUNT period, and OOS ARA's start voting, we could be in trouble.

Our deer herd and deer hunting are changing daily, modifying the rules (OBR, PCR, Late Season Crossbow Buck, antlerless permits extended, October Crossbows) should be an expected progression as the herd grows.

I contacted an individual in the NRC and was told -

That an "individual" did bring up the subject of non-resident comment. It was not stated whether that individual was a member of the IDNR, the NRC or the public.

The complete minutes of the meeting will be out some time next month.

I was also told that the public comment on rule proposals will not be restricted to only Indiana residents.

It is possible that the public could be asked for more than just their email addresses in the future. However, that is too premature to speculate if that will happen at all or just go by what is required now..



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i think were some people get confused on this issue is its not votes its comments. a comment is nothing more than someones opinion of a subject and doesn't count for any thing other than just an opinion and thats exactly what the IDNR ask for on the PCR issue.

now if the IDNR ask for votes then that would be a completely different thing and in my opinion only Indiana residents should be allowed to vote. h.h.

Exactly.
That has been said in various ways several times over now on various threads.

Now, many of the same people trying to claim foul on the PCR issue for a handfull of OOS COMMENTS are at the same time urging all of us who do NOT EVEN LIVE in Marion Co. to help support THEM and make our comments known to the council members against proposal 174 . . . .
Now, to be fair, since it isn't any of MY business(being as I live in tippy Co.), even though I feel strongly opposed to this proposal, and see it only as a stab at gun owners, from the stated viewpoint of certain people I must be shoving my nose where it is NOT welcome. . . .
. . . right?
I mean, that has been made quite clear by several.
I should simply let Marion Co. hunters and land owners fight their own battles and simply worry about me.
Regardless.
After all, I am sure these same people no more want comments from another county than they did from another state.
Same exact principle.



Thankfully, I refuse go that route.
There may be a handfull of hunters I have no liking for, and whom I think deserve proposal 174 if only to serve poetic justice, but there are many others in Marion Co. who had nothing to do with opening this can of worms.
And that is the crux of it.
Proposal 174 is wrong, and no city, county, state or national borderline has any effect on that.
Wrong is simply wrong.

There is an echo in here...

That is basically what the person from the NRC told me.

If there is overwhelming support or against something then that would be considered. Just about anything else is just a push on numbers..

To me, they seemed to be more interested in why instead of how many.

That is how it should be....