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Post by lugnutz on Dec 28, 2006 13:30:51 GMT -5
Its been expressed by many on here that we have to many regulations as it is. I'd like to know what regulations that we have now that we don't need?
I'm sure their will be quite a few of them, since you have to be a rocket scientist to understand our hunting guide and regulations book.
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Post by pbr on Dec 28, 2006 13:47:16 GMT -5
Someone pass the popcorn... .
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 28, 2006 14:28:59 GMT -5
I'm not too sure about too many regulations....however we are currently useing a deer tag structure that was developed for a multi buck bag limit.....AND WE ARE NOW A OBR STATE.
So I would say the license syatem needs overhauled
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Post by Decatur on Dec 28, 2006 15:11:01 GMT -5
I think that most of our regs are there for a reason. However, there is one in particular I don't agree with. (I will NOT mention it's name!) I think that the state has to think up every possible angle to prevent loopholes from ruining the objectives they are trying to achieve.
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Post by steiny on Dec 28, 2006 17:41:30 GMT -5
I'd like to do away with the actual requirement to physically check in your deer kill. Seems to me it could be easily done dial up.
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Post by huxbux on Dec 28, 2006 17:44:19 GMT -5
Too many regs? You betcha. From what I've read, it's a complaint nationwide, no matter what state you're hunting in. It's a growing problem with each new reg. passed. It's almost impossible to be current on all of them, without carrying around a tome while hunting to peruse. My biggest complaint are the "gray" areas. The way some regs are written, it's a judgment call as to whether it's legal or not. I'll need some time to think on this and make a list. I'm sure it will be a long one.
Good post, lug.
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Post by semisneak on Dec 28, 2006 19:13:05 GMT -5
I'd like to do away with the actual requirement to physically check in your deer kill. Seems to me it could be easily done dial up. I agree. Checking a deer in is the biggest pain in the a$$ every year. Could be done with a phone call.
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Post by ActionPoint on Dec 28, 2006 20:41:01 GMT -5
Compared to some states, we have it very, very simple. Some states hunting regulations are seriously almost as large as a phone book. We definitely have some issues that could use a little tweaking but honestly i'm not so sure having a bunch of hands stirring around the current regs and making changes are going to get us anything better than we have now. At some point I think you leave well-enough alone. One thing that I have noticed is a lack of united front when it comes to our law enforcement's interpretation of our current laws. I have had many conflicting answers to questions this year and there really is noone to receive a definitive answer from. There seems to be a lack of communication down through the chain of command. In some instances it seems our local CO's might as well write the laws themselves.
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Post by firstwd on Dec 28, 2006 20:55:44 GMT -5
It's not just the ICO. Any officer on the street is charged with using their "judgement" on just about every law on the book. After that the worse of it happens. A Prosecutor looks at the arrest and uses their "judgement" to determine what chargesw to file. Then a Judge has to use their"judgement" to determine what punishment to hand out. This Country would straighten right up if we had absolute punishments for crimes, like we used to. Steal a horse......HANG! As for "dial a deer", Kentucky has that. A few years ago I got a deer on a warm day. We went straight from the river bottoms to the cutting board. As I was leaving for home the next afternoon my cousin came running from the house with the phone. I forgot to call it in, but would have had a huge fine if I crossed the river without it being checked. I already wonder how many der don't make the drive through the check station as it is, what would things be like if we just called it in?
I would like to see the book written a little easier for everyone to understand. I also realize that our book is just a summary of our Game Laws and it is our job to know all of them.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 28, 2006 21:54:06 GMT -5
There's always too many hunting regs. It's the same way with laws. Lawmakers like to write too many laws. It seems that maybe they feel that if they don't do something maybe people will take notice and vote them out. They always fiddle with the wrong laws.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 28, 2006 23:08:35 GMT -5
Personally I don't have trouble understanding the regulations. All of them are in the Hunting and Trapping Guide and since you ask............
1. I would like to see Dial Check-in for deer. 2. One buck tag covering all the seasons since we are an OBR state. 3. Make crossbows legal in archery season. 4. Youth weekend hunters be able to kill a buck or doe or both. 5. A five day primitive muzzleloader season the second week of October. 6. Only be able to use one bonus anterless tag a day. 7. Legalize pistol caliber cartridge rifles for deer hunting. 8. Plug all legal guns for deer hunting or limit them to 3 shots.
I think that about covers it. h.h.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 29, 2006 5:10:10 GMT -5
Yeah, somehow we need to inform them the books need to be made thinner and simpler. They should feel free not to add more.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 29, 2006 8:07:39 GMT -5
Personally I don't have trouble understanding the regulations. All of them are in the Hunting and Trapping Guide and since you ask............ 1. I would like to see Dial Check-in for deer. 2. One buck tag covering all the seasons since we are an OBR state. 3. Make crossbows legal in archery season. 4. Youth weekend hunters be able to kill a buck or doe or both. 5. A five day primitive muzzleloader season the second week of October. 6. Only be able to use one bonus anterless tag a day. 7. Legalize pistol caliber cartridge rifles for deer hunting. 8. Plug all legal guns for deer hunting or limit them to 3 shots. I think that about covers it. h.h. 1 through 7 sounds good to me.... .
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Post by dec on Dec 29, 2006 8:10:04 GMT -5
I really don't think Indiana's regs are that difficult to understand. They are generally the same year to year with slight changes and I find it easy to keep up with them.
Personally, the only regulation I'm passionate about that I want changed or gone is the stupid check station regulation. I HATE the check stations with a passion. I want a telecheck system.
There are other regs I'd like to have tweaked, but it is not life or death if they are not.
Some changes I'd like to see ... 1) 1 week gun season and set it to start the Saturday after Thanksgiving. 2) 1 week m.z. season in mid to late December. 3) Plug all deer guns to 3 rounds. 4) Youth season ... let them shoot a buck. 5) Do away with the high powered cartridges for pistols. 6) I wouldn't use a pistol cartridge rifle, but I'd support it. 7) I'm not a fan of cross bows, but I'd probably support them in the early season. 8) I don't buy tags (LL holder), but I'd support a restructured license system. 9) A late goose season! Man do we need one badly. 5 bird limit during the months of January and February.
I think that is about it.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 29, 2006 8:17:24 GMT -5
I never have liked the 1/2 hour before & after "official sunset".
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Post by jstalljon on Dec 29, 2006 8:45:33 GMT -5
I'd like to do away with the actual requirement to physically check in your deer kill. Seems to me it could be easily done dial up. This is my biggest gripe as well. Try shooting a doe on the morning of the day before Christmas and physically check it in during the next 48 hours. Had the guy not been a personal friend of my taxidermist, I don't think I would have made the deadline. WE NEED THE OPTION OF A TELE-CHECK!!!! I always hear the "well you open the door to more poaching or "saving" tags if you go to a tele-check". I don't buy it. Poachers are poachers and ethical hunters are ethical hunters. The option of being able to pick up a phone and check in a deer is not going to turn the tables.
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 29, 2006 9:56:18 GMT -5
I never have liked the 1/2 hour before & after "official sunset". Why not? I'd love for Illinois to have those hours. When gun hunting we have to get out at sunset which leaves a 1/2 hour of shooting light at the end of the day that we can't hunt. During the later season hunts that last 1/2 hour is the best 1/2 hour of the day.
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Post by mbogo on Dec 29, 2006 10:08:15 GMT -5
I like HH's first seven and Dec's #9, to that I would add the following:
1. Extend rabbit season until the middle of Feb. 2. Move fall turkey season to mid-late Dec. 3. Several rules need to be clarified, for ex. the baiting rules. 4. One year deferral of the Hunter's Ed. requirement with adult supervision. 5. End the OBR
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Post by mullis56 on Dec 29, 2006 10:10:16 GMT -5
Personally I don't have trouble understanding the regulations. All of them are in the Hunting and Trapping Guide and since you ask............ 1. I would like to see Dial Check-in for deer. 2. One buck tag covering all the seasons since we are an OBR state. 3. Make crossbows legal in archery season. 4. Youth weekend hunters be able to kill a buck or doe or both. 5. A five day primitive muzzleloader season the second week of October. 6. Only be able to use one bonus anterless tag a day. 7. Legalize pistol caliber cartridge rifles for deer hunting. 8. Plug all legal guns for deer hunting or limit them to 3 shots. I think that about covers it. h.h. 1 through 7 sounds good to me.... ME TOO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE CHANGES! .
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Post by mullis56 on Dec 29, 2006 10:11:18 GMT -5
I never have liked the 1/2 hour before & after "official sunset". Why not? I'd love for Illinois to have those hours. When gun hunting we have to get out at sunset which leaves a 1/2 hour of shooting light at the end of the day that we can't hunt. During the later season hunts that last 1/2 hour is the best 1/2 hour of the day. I agree I've hunted over there and that flat out sucks!
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