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Post by cambygsp on Dec 20, 2006 5:48:55 GMT -5
What are you talking about?
Do I favor leasing..?.......NO!
However we have looked far and wide to find a place we can manage and hunt.....No Luck!
I have several "private land" places to hunt, however so do MASSES of other hunters, some I know and some I dont and not all are on the same page.
We are gonna try this for 3 years and see if we like the results. One of the main reasons I am going forward is because next season my son will be totaly hunting on his own. Do I want him wandering around the woods, not knowing who is in there and where they are at?.............NO again!
This season on the second day of gun season we got in early, set up and was ready to hunt. About 15 minutes after daylight another hunter comes in and climbs a tree not 50 yards from my son. My son hits me on the radio and tells me about it.....I can't beleive it. I get down, walk over and bigger than ----, there he was, not 50 yards from my son.
This spot is about 150 acre, we were the only ones in there, why sit so close?
When we got back to the truck, where there is only room for one truck, the other fella had parked on the street!
We need a little more control and a little more organization, I don't see any other way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2006 6:20:36 GMT -5
Jack Ryan doesn't want kids and women in the field with him? ? Funny stuff there. Camby, I got your email, along with several others. I'm waiting on a guy that has first dibs on it, and I'll get back with you all in order of the response. thanks for the intertest and I hope you find a good spot to hunt. Everybody needs a good spot to hunt.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 20, 2006 9:53:57 GMT -5
In one thread you've got a yeehaw going on about rifles in deer season and how great it is to get all kinds of new hunters, even the women and kids out in the woods with rifles. Then in nearly the next thread gripes and complaints about leasing, middle men, and lack of enough ground to support the hunters out there right now. Do people use their brains for anything beyond cushioning their seat any more? Am I for leasing, hell no but i am all for getting more hunters in the woods. Why, because the average of age hunters is going up every year which means we don't have the youth involved in our sport. With out youth in the sport the sport dies out. As hunters grow older and quit hunting or die there isn't enough youth becoming involved in hunting to replace the old. We need all the hunter opportunity we can get so just maybe another kid will take up hunting. With increased weapons choices maybe a few more youth will want to use that weapon to hunt. Hunters who want to limit seasons, weapons and bag limits just help put another nail in the coffin of hunting. h.h.
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Post by drs on Dec 20, 2006 11:08:33 GMT -5
GOOD POST, H.H.!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2006 11:25:11 GMT -5
Exactly...those that want to help save hunting will be the ones helping to remove the barriers, not add more.
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Post by jbier22 on Dec 20, 2006 13:59:38 GMT -5
I have to agree that leasing is not the end of hunting, but another avenue to have more hunters in the field. I have been lucky enough to be able to hunt private property, that is fairly exclusive to myself and a couple buddies. But even that is starting to change. Better the landowner leases out the property than sell it off for a sub-division.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 20, 2006 15:28:07 GMT -5
Although hunting is not enjoyed by as many folks today, the folks who do hunt are REALLY enjoying it, and their drive, like ours, to have exclusive use of the land and attempt to run a management program is what has driven leasing to the popularity it has today.
There is a value there and landowners are cashing in on it and I don't blame them!
The lease broker adds some security for the landowner with the insurance and a iron clad written lease.
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Post by mbogo on Dec 20, 2006 19:55:27 GMT -5
In one thread you've got a yeehaw going on about rifles in deer season and how great it is to get all kinds of new hunters, even the women and kids out in the woods with rifles. Then in nearly the next thread gripes and complaints about leasing, middle men, and lack of enough ground to support the hunters out there right now. Do people use their brains for anything beyond cushioning their seat any more? At best that is very short sighted thinking. While prohibiting leasing and discouraging others from taking up hunting may lead to cheaper, better hunting in the short run, in the long run failing to recruit new hunters(by increasing opportunity where possible) only results in the demise of hunting.
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Post by jackryan on Dec 21, 2006 0:06:16 GMT -5
Jack Ryan doesn't want kids and women in the field with him? ? Funny stuff there. Camby, I got your email, along with several others. I'm waiting on a guy that has first dibs on it, and I'll get back with you all in order of the response. thanks for the intertest and I hope you find a good spot to hunt. Everybody needs a good spot to hunt. I didn't say what I wanted. I simply stated the contradictory attitude that exist in the two threads.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 21, 2006 4:43:14 GMT -5
Hmmmm..........
I always thought as an AMERICAN I had the right to rethink any position I may have, and as a AMERICAN I had a right to change that position!
I would much rather perfer to have exclusive access to, lets say 500+ acre of hunting land for FREE...........It don't look like thats gonna happen.
I we find the right place, we have decided to lease!
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Post by jackryan on Dec 21, 2006 6:18:49 GMT -5
So then lease.
Ya'all are mighty touchy about how fickle you are.
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Post by nwhuntguy on Dec 21, 2006 20:41:12 GMT -5
I agree with securing a place that younger hunters and new hunters can join enjoy the great outdoors that we enjoy. That is why I am looking for a lease so that my son and my nephew and some friends and their sons will hopefully have a place to hunt when they get older.
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Post by rmc on Dec 23, 2006 9:33:05 GMT -5
So Mr. anti lease, let the "State deer Biologist manage the herd because he is a paid Pro", QDM and deer management don't work, has had a change of heart.
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Post by RiverJim on Dec 23, 2006 11:02:20 GMT -5
I thought you didn't care about antler size camby? State ground not good enough now? I got some GREAT state ground 2 minutes from the house! I know of at least 3 B&C bucks taken from these state places!
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