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Post by cambygsp on Dec 7, 2006 12:52:05 GMT -5
10 years is a long time. Are they calling a rule modification that lasts at least 10 years a "TRIAL" because they don't want to address the license structure?
Come on folks, if we have a OBR then we REALLY only need one buck tag that will last the ENTIRE deer season. 16 day buck tags are counter productive to a OBR!!!!!
Contact your elected representitives and the IDNR and let them know how you feel on this issue, It can be changed!
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Post by swilk on Dec 7, 2006 13:54:44 GMT -5
Good point.
It will take a well coordinated effort to get DNR to make the change. The thought of lost revenue will block out most opposition.
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Dec 7, 2006 13:57:08 GMT -5
I'm sure if they did go to a one buck tag for any weapon during the season they would jack up prices again to make up for their losses.Just my opinion..
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Post by js2397 on Dec 7, 2006 15:28:58 GMT -5
I think if they asked you to pay an extra 5.00 for an any season tag that would be fine.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 7, 2006 19:24:14 GMT -5
I'm sure if they did go to a one buck tag for any weapon during the season they would jack up prices again to make up for their losses.Just my opinion.. archery only hunters get to hunt a buck for 3 months for 24.00.......so why do they need a price increase ?
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Dec 7, 2006 20:04:03 GMT -5
I'm sure if they did go to a one buck tag for any weapon during the season they would jack up prices again to make up for their losses.Just my opinion.. archery only hunters get to hunt a buck for 3 months for 24.00.......so why do they need a price increase ? I don't know,what I was trying to say if they had just the one buck tag that was good for any weapon they would probably go up.I ate my gun tag,still got my one archery tag left,and haven't decided on ML tag yet.So if they just had had the one tag they just lost $48 off of me and take that times who knows how many thousands.That's alot of money they would loose,and I would think they would do something not to make it to great of a loss.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 7, 2006 22:48:48 GMT -5
I like Kenutcky's license structure. Its wayyyy better than ours.
IMO
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Post by kodiak50 on Dec 8, 2006 1:43:42 GMT -5
16 days for $25 Looks like pretty cheap entertainment to me.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 8, 2006 4:13:56 GMT -5
16 days for $25 Looks like pretty cheap entertainment to me. I'm not complaining about the current price, My problem lies in the fact that a 16 day tag is counter productive to a OBR. SELECTIVNESS, is what the OBR is all about! I am sure a season long buck tag will fetch more than 24.00....I think 48.00 is a good price, but it should be decided by US.....the hunters, by working with the IDNR. I don't see a need for a OBR when tags only have a 16 day shelf life...it's counter productive! If we are going to have a OBR, then we need to make other adjustments so the rule could possibly have some effect!
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Post by kyle on Dec 8, 2006 7:05:18 GMT -5
Sounds like somebody is mad they didn't buy a lifetime license.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 8, 2006 7:13:34 GMT -5
I'm mad I didn't get one. But if you don't have it, you can't spend it!
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 8, 2006 7:24:46 GMT -5
Sounds like somebody is mad they didn't buy a lifetime license. Camby has a LL . I agree that the license structure is in need of overhaul , but OBR has nothing to do with my opinion in this case . OBR is a worthless joke , people will shoot what they want anyway .
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Post by mbogo on Dec 8, 2006 9:18:49 GMT -5
I would agree with that proposal with one additional modification. I think an either sex firearms only tag should also be offered for those that only hunt firearms season.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 8, 2006 9:34:03 GMT -5
I personally believe that a large percentage of deer hunters, that are opening weekend hunters only, do not even realize that the general firearm tag is buck only.
I'll bet that a good percentage of them fill it with a doe when push comes to shove.
Nowhere, that I am aware of, is that license checked to see if it is a buck or doe taken. Not at the check station or when the IDNR collects the numbers. The only time that a hunter could checked like this is when a CO checks his deer and tag in the field. Not too sure how often that happens.
I do agree that the "general firearm tag" should be either sex, like the MZ and archery tag .
I don't think we will ever see a "buck tag" that can be used in all seasons.Too many dollars would be lost.
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Post by js2397 on Dec 8, 2006 10:42:18 GMT -5
You should be able to buy them separately, just gun which would include forearms or muzzleloader, or a three-season combo. They would be able to figure out a price structure where they would not lose any money. I also think every tag should be either sex or antlerless only.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 8, 2006 12:07:43 GMT -5
Sure would save computer paper & wallet space if the system would update & reprint everything on one piece of paper when you purchase additional licenses & tags during the seasons.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 8, 2006 13:14:10 GMT -5
Sounds like somebody is mad they didn't buy a lifetime license. Who you talking about? I have a lifetime, it's #6615 and I purchased it on 04/14/1997
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Post by Decatur on Dec 8, 2006 14:50:13 GMT -5
Sure would save computer paper & wallet space if the system would update & reprint everything on one piece of paper when you purchase additional licenses & tags during the seasons. I agree!
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 8, 2006 18:38:03 GMT -5
Hey cambygsp your following comments intrigued me. "I'm not complaining about the current price, My problem lies in the fact that a 16 day tag is counter productive to a OBR. SELECTIVNESS, is what the OBR is all about!" What in the sam heck does the length of a tag have to do with OBR...A gun hunter ravaging the woods for 16 days clearly has an advantage over an archer hunting for 6 weeks with a bow and arrows, shooting deer at 30 yards, or less on average... If some of you guys are that strapped for cash maybe you should sell your equipment and feed your families.Did it ever occur to you that every dime we spend as Sportsmen, a percentage of that goes back into conservation and restoration....look at the Wild Turkey for example.The Pittman Robertson Act....If you can't afford it then don't do it. I have no problem spending a measly $48.00 a year to do what I love to do...actually I can honestly say I never blinked once at paying whatever the tag prices were...I spend hundreds of dollars a year on hunting, trapping, fishing etc. I wouldn't care if a tag was $100.00 every buck I harvest is worth way more to me than a hundred dollar bill..So am I gonna complain about 24.00, maybe $ 48.00, if I don't get my buck in archery....heck no! How ya think we pay these top notch Biologist we have here in the State doing our OBR surveys? You can shoot one buck....take your pick....shoot it in archery, if you don't harvest one in archery, then you have to choice to buy another tag for firearms or not......There's not guarantee you'll get a buck in firearms either....One Buck.....One Buck........did I say "One Buck"..yes I think so.......How is a 16 day tag counter product? Frankly, IMO i think 16 days is too long! we need a 3 days weekend like IIL. and then a week off, and then 4 days .....and thats it..Then you'd could say "a 7 day buck tag is counter productive"...
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Post by greghopper on Dec 8, 2006 18:53:18 GMT -5
Good Post Ridge... ;)Well said and to the POINT!!!!!
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