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Post by drs on Oct 24, 2006 7:32:36 GMT -5
Do you have somthing to contribute deerdemon, or are you content to act like a teenager and just roll your eyes without even informing us of your opinion? If the idea is a bad one, please tell us why. If you approve, again, tell us why. Edit: Never mind. Likely another hit and run, jut like September. See you in a month dd. (Trollish behavior is so unbecomming...) I think "deerdemon" is one of those "Soccer Moms", I am refering to. He/She does not list his or her "gender". Could have a troll here too, so one never knows.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 24, 2006 7:54:26 GMT -5
Do you have somthing to contribute deerdemon, or are you content to act like a teenager and just roll your eyes without even informing us of your opinion? If the idea is a bad one, please tell us why. If you approve, again, tell us why. Edit: Never mind. Likely another hit and run, jut like September. See you in a month dd. (Trollish behavior is so unbecomming...) I think "deerdemon" is one of those "Soccer Moms", I am refering to. He/She does not list his or her "gender". Could have a troll here too, so one never knows.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 24, 2006 9:11:34 GMT -5
That's all well and good, but what I'm referring to is how a lot of Illinois hunters have been priced out of deer hunting by outlandish lease prices. I don't blame landowners at all for making the money, they deserve it, but if too many people lose their "spot", there will be no "sport". As far as wanting to shoot an elk, Montana "needs" our tourist dollars to help make it, Indiana doesn't. I didn't say I didn't want ANYBODY to come and play in my "sandbox", I was just stating I pray we never end up like our neighbor to the west. Heck dude, I'm already "priced out" of the lease market. The problem isn't the gun being used, it's the bidding wars created by people who want to create their own little sandbox rather than share the experience. IMO the purpose of paying for a "lease" isn't to gain exclusive rights, it's just to ensure you and the land owner talk once in a while and hopefully prove your intent to keep his property up/improve it.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Oct 24, 2006 9:29:47 GMT -5
While it may be in your opinion the intent isn't to gain exclusive rights, that's exactly why it is done. If it were simply to talk to the farmers and improve his property, we wouldn't have leasing....we'd have what we had in the first place.
Make no mistake about it....people lease to have exclusive rights. I don't do it because if I'm gonna pay to hunt somewhere, it isn't going to be in Indiana. There are much better states with many more different type of game that I'd reserve my money for.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 24, 2006 9:49:19 GMT -5
Oh, I know Hoyt. I just find it sad. It's that sort of thing that does more to kill off hunting than anything else. Mine mine mine. Me me me. Who cares if no one else learns to hunt or people drop out because they can't afford it/find a place to hunt? I mean, really, if hunting dies out after I'm dead, what do I care? Sport of Kings & Nobles and all that.
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Post by hunter480 on Oct 24, 2006 17:11:49 GMT -5
Oh, I know Hoyt. I just find it sad. It's that sort of thing that does more to kill off hunting than anything else. Mine mine mine. Me me me. Who cares if no one else learns to hunt or people drop out because they can't afford it/find a place to hunt? I mean, really, if hunting dies out after I'm dead, what do I care? Sport of Kings & Nobles and all that. I`m with Decatur-the game belongs to each state, and I certainly don`t want out of staters coming in to bust our deer. What happens after that is, the leasing giants come in, buy up as much prime ground as they can, then lease it out at crazy prices, and the residents are cut out of hunting in their own backyard. If that`s me, me, me, then so be it, but places to hunt are scarce enough as things stand now without adding to it with the non-resident/leasing game being played. But back on topic-as I stated before-no one will be able to give you a rational, logical reason to not instate the pistol cartridge rifles, because none exist-it`s all an emotional response. I can`t wait to go deer hunting with my sweet little Winchester 94 in .44 mag. ;D
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Post by greenhunter111 on Oct 24, 2006 22:01:04 GMT -5
Decatur------ From everything I'm hearing, the IDNR is hurting for funds. If out of staters don't contribute to their budget....we will in the form of higher tag/license fees. IDNR already recinded the lifetime licenses cuz they were losing money on the deal. I'd like to see the IDNR buy more and more land for public hunting use.
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Post by greenhunter111 on Oct 24, 2006 22:04:44 GMT -5
I want to break out the Ruger .44 mag Deerslayer or I may get a custom Encore barrel in .445 supermag. (that was a Dan Wesson round). Personally, if they said it was OK, I'd really prefer the .444 Marlin or the 45-70 Gov't. in my single shot.
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Post by greenhunter111 on Oct 24, 2006 22:11:02 GMT -5
I started out 15 years ago buying 10 acres and killed deer off it. I now have almost 200 acres. All of us have the potential to do the same. What are you willing to sacrifice for your little piece of heaven on earth? You can lease or you can own...thats the wonderful thing about America
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Post by hunter480 on Oct 25, 2006 16:54:45 GMT -5
I started out 15 years ago buying 10 acres and killed deer off it. I now have almost 200 acres. All of us have the potential to do the same. What are you willing to sacrifice for your little piece of heaven on earth? You can lease or you can own...thats the wonderful thing about America It`s great that you have your own ground and all-but no, everyone can`t buy their own land-you may think it`s the wonderful thing about America-but the reality of it is, everyone can not do it. And if residents in Indiana need to pay higher fees to hunt-fine-but we do not need non-residents coming in and starting the lease craze-period.
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Post by Decatur on Oct 26, 2006 6:31:53 GMT -5
I started out 15 years ago buying 10 acres and killed deer off it. I now have almost 200 acres. All of us have the potential to do the same. What are you willing to sacrifice for your little piece of heaven on earth? You can lease or you can own...thats the wonderful thing about America It`s great that you have your own ground and all-but no, everyone can`t buy their own land-you may think it`s the wonderful thing about America-but the reality of it is, everyone can not do it. And if residents in Indiana need to pay higher fees to hunt-fine-but we do not need non-residents coming in and starting the lease craze-period. My thoughts exactly!
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Post by indianahick on Oct 26, 2006 10:48:47 GMT -5
Dec-do not have a heart attack. I am with Dec and 480 on this one. Not everyone can, could, or will be able to afford to buy his own place. I just seen 70 wooded acres in the paper. 180K.
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Post by mbogo on Oct 27, 2006 8:55:42 GMT -5
I'm with greenhunter on this one, this is America, where if you want something bad enough and are willing to work hard enough at it you probably have a chance.
Now then we should get back to the original topic of this thread and move the side discussion to its own thread.
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