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Post by dbd870 on Aug 20, 2007 13:54:32 GMT -5
I'm going to spend money on one the the 2 following items: (and these 2 only) 1. New (frame) T/C in 30-06 (I've shot them, I'm not concerned about the recoil) (I can pick up the barrel & pachmayr grips/forearm quite reasonably from a friend). 2. New Martin Bengal. All I have currently for IN gun season is my 870 (does have rifled barrel & scope) and I have had success with it in the past. However that T/C would be handier and a whole lot of fun. I have Dave's Cougar for my bow which I'm extremely pleased with but it is an 01 or 02 and Dave has had some (many) arrows through it and I'm wondering if I could experience any problems with it just due to use/age at some point. (beyond cables/string)I'd be extremely disappointed if it failed in October!!! What say you all: hand-cannon or new bow?  ?    |
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 20, 2007 14:35:08 GMT -5
Tough choice but since you already have a bow and no hunting handgun Id go with the gun. It will give you a lot more range than the slug gun.
Heres another suggestion, buy a Savage ML II smokeless muzzle loader. It will cost around 500.00 + scope but it will give you the best of both gun and muzzle loading season. h.h.
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Post by Russ Koon on Aug 20, 2007 14:47:09 GMT -5
Bought both my Browning bows used, with no idea how many shots they'd had before I saw them. Wore all the original finish from the grip area and covered it with camo tape, and have now worn out the tape. Haven't had to replace or repair anything except strings and cables,and the cable slides that came with it.
I'd trust the Martin to get you through many more seasons if you wish.
Of course the 870 will probably last many more years as well.
Kinda gets down to whichever new toy has the most excitement going for it.
My guess is you'll get the pistol. If the bow actually breaks during season, I'm sure you'll find another one will somehow fit into the budget. There are a number of them available in the mid-range that are great hunting bows if you're not caught up in having the absolute latest tricks and gadgets, for around the $250 mark, or you might want to risk a hundred on a used one to get through the season, like I did with these old Brownings that just won't quit.
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Post by dbd870 on Aug 20, 2007 14:49:57 GMT -5
I actually thought about that hh but I'd grab up the bow again in December because well, I like it. And yeah, the T/C is much more fun than the slug gun. Yeah Russ the T/C has a greater toy value for me. ;D
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Post by Sasquatch on Aug 20, 2007 18:44:23 GMT -5
With the bow, try and wiggle the cams back and forth. If there is no play, then the bearings aren't too worn. Chances are, if the limbs haven't broken yet, they probably aren't gonna break. There isn't a lot of practical difference between a bow made now and one made ten years ago. The biggest differences are in geometry, vibration and the resultant noise, and a little bit of speed. If the bow has been taken care of, it's probably fine.
If the bow is ok, get the gun. Guns "age" a lot slower. A well cared-for gun will still be good in 20 years!
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Post by WhoDey78 on Aug 20, 2007 19:58:53 GMT -5
I saw a really nice Fred Bear on craigslist in Bloomington. The guy bought it 9 months ago for 500 and wants to sell it for 250. Pretty good deal and maybe you'll have enough for the T/C.
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Post by dbd870 on Aug 20, 2007 20:47:44 GMT -5
Cams feel very solid. It seems I shouldn't be too concerned about the bow; I think I'll get the T/C and have hoosieroutdoorsman replace the string and cable over the winter on my Cougar. The IBO speed was 294 for both the 01 & 02 (not sure what the difference between those 2 years were, all the specs look identical) so I could buy a little speed I guess but I like what I have. Thanks for the info; I have been out of archery for many years and I'm appreciative of all your knowledge here.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Aug 21, 2007 7:24:19 GMT -5
You gotta get the bow so you do not have to change your site name. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by dbd870 on Aug 21, 2007 7:42:54 GMT -5
I sort of blew that already between the Whelen and the Model 7, and I used a 30-06 last year so yeah the name isn't working out so well. Up untill then all I was using was my 870 so it seemed good at the time. I could work off my bow, but I'm kind of afraid if I do that I'll start moving them around!!!!!! I'm thinking "dbdgunoftheweek" but that's a little too long.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Aug 21, 2007 9:13:29 GMT -5
I sort of blew that already between the Whelen and the Model 7, and I used a 30-06 last year so yeah the name isn't working out so well. Up untill then all I was using was my 870 so it seemed good at the time. I could work off my bow, but I'm kind of afraid if I do that I'll start moving them around!!!!!! I'm thinking "dbdgunoftheweek" but that's a little too long. Heck if that's the case, buy em both.  |
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 21, 2007 9:22:05 GMT -5
Dave,
I just ordered two barrels for my .243 Striker. One is 15" 30.06 which I'll have to feed by hand one at a time and the other is a 14" 7mm-08 that will work in the .243 mag. Its very easy to do a barrel swap with Savage guns. The guy I got them from builds custom handguns and told me the 30.06 is a real shooter. Now I'll have to make a decision which barrel I want to hunt with come deer season and the bad part is my all time favorite deer gun, the Savage 10 ML might just have to set in case until muzzleloader season. h.h.
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Post by dbd870 on Aug 21, 2007 9:45:50 GMT -5
Boy, those are 2 really nice choices. Guess you'll have to try them both out and see which one shoots better for you. I bought the barrel and Pachmayr set this morning and told Russ to get me the frame coming. The 06 really isn't as bad as some might think. Sounds like we both might be taking that round out this fall, congratulations. It would be interesting to shoot both guns side by side and see which feels better. I've fired an XP100 and the T/C's but never a Stryker. How does it compare to the others?
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 21, 2007 10:04:49 GMT -5
Its heavier than the T/C weighs in around 5 1/2 lbs with the scope on. With the brake on in the .243 is hardly moves on the bench. Not much recoil at all. I'm sure with either of the other barrels that will change. I plan on using 130 - 150 grain bullets and that should help with recoil. I put a 3x12 Burris scope on mine. Most of the guys who shoot these recommend that scope. Ive got a Simmons 4x handgun scope that was on it. Its made in Japan, not China. It worked all right but the Burris in much better to shoot target with. h.h.
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Post by dbd870 on Aug 21, 2007 10:24:26 GMT -5
I'm thinking of starting with 165 Sierra's. I need to look at scopes myself. I'll probably go with a 2X something. A Burris is possible and I've read some good things about the new Weaver 2X as well. They seem to be hold up to the single shots nicely.
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