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Post by cambygsp on Jun 6, 2007 12:05:58 GMT -5
How are they connected?
Is there something going on that I don't know about?
I recently read where "crossbow lobbists" are the ones that got PCR's in ......... and that crossbows were next. Well, this is the first I have heard about it and was wanting someone to explain it to me.
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Post by midwesthunter on Jun 6, 2007 12:07:59 GMT -5
i havent heard anything like that. I hope they don't allow cross bows or if they do treat them as a firearm.
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Post by gundude on Jun 6, 2007 12:08:45 GMT -5
Camby, Please let it go.... Don't play the role of the village idiot here... I/you know where it will go.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 12:11:43 GMT -5
If Joe is against it, I'm for it. So, in that respect, yes they are related. I get a quick out of his remarks abour Woody. Shows he's really got a personal problem with anyone who disagrees with his own opinion.
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Post by chicobrownbear on Jun 6, 2007 12:33:41 GMT -5
I see this thread turning into a flame war pretty quick.
I don't think crossbow lobbyists would be lobbying for much more than crossbows if thats where their passion lies. I'm sure in some cases you have a few who hunt with both a xbow and gun so there would be a *vague* connection. It would be a stretch to generalize that scenario into the statement that you posted above.
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 6, 2007 12:33:51 GMT -5
Yes; time to let it go.
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 6, 2007 12:54:18 GMT -5
When a high ranking official in the states largest deer hunting organization makes a statement, I think it's worth discussing.
NOW.....is there any evidence that crossbow lobbists are the ones that pushed and got the PCR's approved in Indiana. It seems to me if crossbow lobbists were working Indiana, they would be working for more crossbow time, not PCR's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 13:00:08 GMT -5
No sense sugar coating it.....that statement was a personal attack aimed at this site and Woody, based on the fact that this site was mostly for the PCR and that Woody has been and continues to be pro-crossbow. The other site isn't nor is the IDHA. You have one group of sportsmen that are mostly pro-oppurtunity as long as it makes sense, the other site is 180 degrees in the other direction.
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Post by drs on Jun 6, 2007 13:48:28 GMT -5
If Joe is against it, I'm for it. So, in that respect, yes they are related. I get a quick out of his remarks abour Woody. Shows he's really got a personal problem with anyone who disagrees with his own opinion. You took the words right out of my mouth, "timex"! |
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Post by gundude on Jun 6, 2007 13:50:28 GMT -5
if you have a problem with them then take it up with them instead of this crap............
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 6, 2007 14:24:13 GMT -5
I'm thinking this thread can go nowhere but downhill. You might get a lock handy for this one chico.
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Post by bsutravis on Jun 6, 2007 14:32:51 GMT -5
Remember..... we promised Woody we'd play nice while he is gone!!!!
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 6, 2007 14:35:50 GMT -5
I aint got a problem with nobody, I just want to know "who" the crossbow lobbists are, when and where they performed their work and WHERE is any crossbow issues on the IDNR agenda. This information came from a high ranking official of the states largest deer hunting organization on a public message board, so we can only assume there is truth to it......right?
I sure don't think the high ranking official would make anything up!
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Post by Harley on Jun 6, 2007 14:50:35 GMT -5
bookmarked ;D
I gotta watch this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 14:53:31 GMT -5
if you have a problem with them then take it up with them instead of this crap............ Joe won't allow it.....I've been banned from that site several times because they can't stand to see the truth. I don't care what he posts, but he needs to stop posting Woody's name everytime he doesn't get his way on something. |
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Post by chicobrownbear on Jun 6, 2007 15:01:47 GMT -5
I have a meeting to go to, and I don't know when my colleagues are going to be back on so I locked the thread. Please try not to come up with sore subjects.
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Post by hornharvester on Jun 6, 2007 16:05:30 GMT -5
Guys,
I talked to Chico and Im going against my better judgement and unlocking this post but I'll warn you right now to play by the rules or it will get locked again and someone will get a week or two off. h.h.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Jun 6, 2007 16:17:22 GMT -5
Thanks HH.
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My 2p.
RE: Camby's original quesion:
You won't find many people more active & activist in the PCR debate than me.
I don't have a crossbow.
The only person I "know" who has a crossbow is Woody - and I was active in the PCR debate before I joined this or any Indiana Forum.
So from the standpoint of this "activist" I have never heard of, been approached by, or had anything to do with the Crossbow Debate or any "Crossbow Activists" except in regards to Woody's operation of this Forum and his pro-crossbow posts herein.
Take that as you will.
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Post by dec on Jun 6, 2007 16:17:53 GMT -5
I'm going to dance real carefully here ... so here goes.
A couple of you are jumping on a long time feud between two people who both have put themselves (by choice) in a very public and vocal position. And honestly I think all of us really need to stay out of their battles with each other. Both have personal agendas, both are very stubborn on certain issues. I make that last statement with good intentions as WE ALL have agendas and can be quite stubborn, and that is not all bad.
I personally agree with both of them on some issues and disagree with them on others. I take no sides between the two.
This is my opinion and my opinion only PCR's and X-bows are in NO way related topics. It simply happens that one person disdains both and the other enjoys both. What each say in their own forums and in their own ways, right or wrong, is their business, not yours, mine, or anyone else's. Threads started like this simply fuel the fire of the war between the core groups of the three Indiana forums. It is stupid and pointless.
I'm out of here on this topic.
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Post by tmarsh83 on Jun 6, 2007 18:02:06 GMT -5
Wow...so many directions to go here.
First, this seems awfully petty. It has also been said that the anti-obr people are the ones that pushed the PCR just to exact their revenge. It has also been said that aliens landed in arizona a few years ago. It doesn't really matter.
The worst thing here is people refusing to listen to anything a person has to say because of their name. That is the single most petty and childish thing I have ever heard. Even you disagree with someone on something, EVERYONE needs to be respectful enough of everyone else to not hold these 3rd grade, "you took my crayons" grudges. It is stupid. Period. I beg any of you to tell me how I am wrong in that regard.
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