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Post by Old Ironsights on May 4, 2007 8:54:03 GMT -5
In 1900s I don't think you would find many "shooters" - i.e. people who only do range time/Gaming.
In the American Rifle, Ned Roberts wrote an article that was published in June of 1935 titled "The Rifles of Yesterday" and he described his upbringing with the rifle. His uncle Alvaro has been immortalized by Robert's writings, and Alvaro is the "favorite uncle" cited in the text.
"My favorite uncle, who taught me to shoot a rifle, insisted that a good rifleman with a good rifle should be able to hit a silver dollar at 10 rods offhand five times in succession, and at the same distance and shooting with a rest, he should hit a half -dollar every shot; while at 20 rods a real rifleman should keep all his shots in a 4 inch circle when shooting from a rest, or in an 8 inch circle at 40 rods. His muzzle loading .40 calibre rifle would shoot finer than this at these ranges, and for many years this was my standard of accuracy. I used to practice rifle shooting a great deal at 10 and 20 rods offhand in those days, and any rifle that would not consistantly show this degree of accuracy was regarded as "no good", and disposed of as soon as possible."
While it is easy today to find rifles that display this level of accuracy, it seems that we don't have a lot of riflemen who can shoot this well. For you youngsters 20 rods is 110 yards. Keep in mind that Roberts talks of iron sighted rifles.
So:
55yds = 1.5" Offhand, 1" Rested 110yds = 4" rested 220yds = 8" rested
And this from 1900's hunters - not 2000s "shooters"/Gamers.
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Post by swilk on May 4, 2007 9:32:05 GMT -5
I like fictional writing as well ......
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Post by Old Ironsights on May 4, 2007 9:50:54 GMT -5
Um... I generally only shoot once a month, and then mostly muzzleloader - yet I'm almost there (out to 100) with my .357 PCR.
It's immenantly doable - even with limited practice.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on May 4, 2007 10:01:22 GMT -5
Good post OI. I can consistently cleanly kill large and small game with my bow, long guns, & pistols, but I have never been worth a darn at target shooting no matter how hard I try to relax & control my breathing. Kooky !!!!!!!!
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Post by Russ Koon on May 4, 2007 11:01:14 GMT -5
My groups weren't that tight when I competed offhand at the 50-yard line at Friendship with my flintlock, either. But the guy that won shot quite a bit tighter than that. If I remember right, after all these years, there were a few close behind him who would probably also have met the standard set by Uncle Alvaro. I was somewhere around the middle of the pack.
Of course we were shooting flinters, with the accompanying slower lock times, and the distraction of having a hammer with a rock clamped to it beating against another big moving part to make sparks and starting a minor explosion six inches in front of our right eye while we were trying to hold the gun steady 8^)
We might have fared better with uncle Alvaro's gun, if it was a caplock.
And we might have been more competitive even with the flinter if the jug we passed around the campfire the night before had been allowed to empty naturally, instead of being replenished so often.
Good old days.
I can shoot my Ruger 1022-T well within that group from a rest these days, but offhand I'm a danger to anyone who's NOT directly downrange!
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