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Post by drs on Apr 19, 2007 14:59:58 GMT -5
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1928, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were unable to defend themselves and were rounded up and exterminated. In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1964, Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1970, Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. That places total victims who lost their lives — because they were unable to defend their liberty — at approximately 56 million in the 20th century. Proof that more people died as the result of Gun Control Laws!
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 19, 2007 15:05:00 GMT -5
As much as I sympathize, that is an example of Post Hoc (ergo Propter Hoc) fallacy.
It is true that a disarmed population made it EASIER for their governments to kill them, but the murders were not a result of the disarmament.
GOVERNMENT is to blame for their murder. Disarmament was only one of several useful but not necessary intermediary steps.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 20, 2007 6:41:14 GMT -5
Excellent post drs.
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Post by indianahick on Apr 20, 2007 11:55:19 GMT -5
Banning firearms turns the citizens into lambs. Lambs are easily slaughtered by wolves. Wolves can be either government gone bad or criminals. An unarmed citizen is easy prey.
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Post by drs on Apr 20, 2007 13:21:49 GMT -5
Thanks, I actually got this off a talk radio show some years back and noticed it was posted on another site. So I thought why not post it here.
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Post by drs on Apr 20, 2007 13:22:30 GMT -5
Banning firearms turns the citizens into lambs. Lambs are easily slaughtered by wolves. Wolves can be either government gone bad or criminals. An unarmed citizen is easy prey.You got that 100% right!
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 20, 2007 16:16:07 GMT -5
Here, you will LOVE this viewpoint . . . . www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/18/commentary.plate/index.htmlPlate: Let's lay down our right to bear armsTranslated: Even though I was scared to death, could have been killed simply for the fun of it, without a gun and completely helpless, I am still not man enough to buy a gun to protect myself or my family, and I want everyone else to be just as helpless as I choose to be so it does not look like I am simply a coward . . .
This may sound harsh, but this puke has chosen to be a life long victim rather than to stand up like a man. As far as I am concerned, people like this the criminal element are welcome to...
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 20, 2007 16:33:58 GMT -5
"A near-death experience does focus the mind. We need to get rid of our guns."
I have only one question for Mr. Plate.
"How?"
With Waco/Ruby Ridge style police raids on homes?
How are you going to get rid of guns?
With a magic wand?
The most simple firearm in the world to make is a Fully automatic 9mm submachinegun. Mr. P.A. Luty, a British Subject, proved this can be done with simple hand tools, stock steel tubing and a few hours work.
How are you going to get rid of guns?
What level of Kim Jong Il style authoritarianisim are you willing to accept to attempt this?
How are you going to take guns away from criminals?
We can't stop Drugs from being smuggled in. In the 90s we were lucky enough to intercept a Chinese Ship from smuggling Fully Automatic SKS Assault Rifles to the gangs in Southern California... barely.
How are you going to get rid of guns?
You aren't. You are only going to impose an authoritarian bureaucracy on the Law Abiding citizens of America... and still get held up by a criminal.
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