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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 22:16:46 GMT -5
This thing has Dave Delaney wrote all over it. Hopefully, some one will do a study of the economis impact that this ban will have on the Marion Co. community and the proposal will be tabled. One good thing about is that Delaney and crew will be there speaking for it and won't be at the other meeting.
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Post by drs on Mar 27, 2007 6:32:02 GMT -5
This thing has Dave Delaney wrote all over it. Hopefully, some one will do a study of the economis impact that this ban will have on the Marion Co. community and the proposal will be tabled. One good thing about is that Delaney and crew will be there speaking for it and won't be at the other meeting. I agree, Tom! I believe this ban, on firearm discharge in Marion County, will have a definite impact on the economy there. Gun shops & Sporting goods, that sell hunting related items, should be at the opposing forefront on this outrageous proposal.
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 27, 2007 13:07:12 GMT -5
I think this should be read by everyone here to see what we are fighting.
I do not think there is any doubt left as to what lengths these people will go. Or any limits as to what they will say. He is now going after the non-gun educated public full throttle guys.
Jim Zumbo, move over.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Mar 27, 2007 16:19:02 GMT -5
Now, maybe I'm being both utopian and cynical, but, if the "perception" of rifles held by the public is BAD, then shouldn't it be up to Hunters to work to CHANGE that perception rather than reinforce it?
IMO anyone who reinforces an opinion that (gunX) is "bad" is anti gun - regardless of what they say.
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Post by buddylee on Mar 27, 2007 17:11:09 GMT -5
Now, maybe I'm being both utopian and cynical, but, if the "perception" of rifles held by the public is BAD, then shouldn't it be up to Hunters to work to CHANGE that perception rather than reinforce it? IMO anyone who reinforces an opinion that (gunX) is "bad" is anti gun - regardless of what they say. I agree. But in this case the individual has an agenda. It is stop pistol cartridge rifles at all costs. It is truly sad that some people are so hung up on winning that they will sell their hunting brothers down the river. The baby is going out with the bath water. I have seen these guys in action before and it's all a matter of getting their own way - come hell or highwater.The people that cried about a politican starting this are now using politicians to try and stop it.
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 27, 2007 17:50:06 GMT -5
Lets just say, a couple of these people need a lot more people nosing in to what they are REALLY up to.
I think one thing is clear: A couple of people are fighting this and willing to bring down the entire gun hunting arena if they have to. That in itself proves there are some VERY personal motives they simply refuse to make public. You do not go to such extremes, and make so many false statements, if you have any honorable reason to be against something.
We better be paying some VERY close attention.
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Post by jackc99 on Mar 27, 2007 21:54:23 GMT -5
Trav - I know Don but I just back tonight. No idea what's going on.
Jack
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Post by larryhagmansliver on Mar 28, 2007 5:42:54 GMT -5
Johnsmiles, as far as I'm concerned you can say what you want here as long as it's a legitimate take. We don't have to agree with each other. What fun would that be? The only thing we do have to agree on is hunting and shooting sports are the some of the best fun we can have as human beings and we need to celebrate that on a daily basis.
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Post by bullwinkle on Mar 28, 2007 10:17:58 GMT -5
bsutravis, thanks for attending the council meeting. I and a few others are working on this and are attempting to set up a meeting with the sponsor of this ordinance. Please send me a PM if you are willing to help. I will be in Washington till Monday. Seeing what happened at Geist sportsmen may want to consider some reasonable suggestions to where gunfire and hunting with guns may be allowed in Marion County. Archery has not been an issue as well as trapping nor clubbing of rabbits
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Post by snakeeye on Mar 28, 2007 15:40:15 GMT -5
I find Harleys with straight pipes much more annoying than occasional gunshots.
I find Riceboys with "high performance" exhaust systems much more annoying than occasional gunshots.
I find pickups with Flowmaster or like exhaust systems much more annoying than occasional gunshots.
If they're gonna ban noise, then ban it all!
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Post by JohnSmiles on Mar 28, 2007 15:56:56 GMT -5
I find Harleys with straight pipes much more annoying than occasional gunshots. I find Riceboys with "high performance" exhaust systems much more annoying than occasional gunshots. I find pickups with Flowmaster or like exhaust systems much more annoying than occasional gunshots. If they're gonna ban noise, then ban it all! And there lies the catch: I dislike them also, unless I am the one driving or shooting them. Those who do not shoot have NO tolerance for something THEY never do. But I agree. This country has lost all sense of what it even means to be offended. It is almost like many have adopted a 'zero tolerance' regime for their fellow man.
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Post by Hawkeye on Mar 28, 2007 18:20:42 GMT -5
I am much more offended by my neighbors constantly barking dogs than an occasional gun shot in hunting season.
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Post by reloader on Mar 28, 2007 19:28:14 GMT -5
Im just offended by liberal democrats
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Post by huxbux on Mar 29, 2007 18:38:51 GMT -5
This may not go over too well with Senator Lugar. I understand he owns farmland in the vicinity of I-465 and Mann rd. that his family hunts on.
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Post by kyle on Mar 30, 2007 6:16:30 GMT -5
If the do ban guns I hope the dnr won't help them out on goose control.
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Post by parson on Apr 6, 2007 11:15:15 GMT -5
I saw a petition on this issue yesterday at Pop guns in Indy. I believe that they said that there will be a public meeting on this on April 17. Anyone know more about this? parson
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Post by mbogo on Apr 6, 2007 15:43:47 GMT -5
The solution is very simple, we need to adopt laws like those in Pennsylvania, stating that wildlife management supersedes local anti-discharge ordinances. Basically anyone engaged in legal hunting activities is exempt from anti-discharge ordinances anywhere in the state. It would make a lot more sense than fighting these little battles over and over and I bet their are at least a couple of pro-gun state representatives that might be willing to draft such a bill. That would also be a much better use of the NRA's time and effort also. It's time to start lobbying our state representatives for such a bill.
On other issues brought up in this thread, I have to say that I find the timing of this attack on gun rights very suspicious and given the efforts of certain individuals, I doubt it is a coincidence. I also doubt that acting member of the three revolving presidents of the IDHA goes that far out on a limb on this issue without the tacit support of the other two. Given the situation, the snide swipes taken at the NRA, seem curious and out of place as well.
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Post by huxbux on Apr 6, 2007 16:48:32 GMT -5
The solution is very simple, we need to adopt laws like those in Pennsylvania, stating that wildlife management supersedes local anti-discharge ordinances. Basically anyone engaged in legal hunting activities is exempt from anti-discharge ordinances anywhere in the state. It would make a lot more sense than fighting these little battles over and over and I bet their are at least a couple of pro-gun state representatives that might be willing to draft such a bill. That would also be a much better use of the NRA's time and effort also. It's time to start lobbying our state representatives for such a bill. Excellent suggestion
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 7, 2007 17:13:04 GMT -5
Hey, just got this from the NRA concerning the Marion Co. proposal 174 BS: www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=2840The more I read, the worse it sounds. I sent all of them who had email addresses(26) a short 'opinion' of proposal 174. . . ;D
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Apr 7, 2007 17:52:40 GMT -5
I plan to be there! I spoke to a few people at my gun club and they didn't seem to concerned We need to load that place up with people on the 17th. Geez if I am reading this right my kid can't even shoot his BB Gun in the basement anymore. If you are not a member of the NRA or other Pro 2nd Amend. Group .. why not?
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