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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Dec 8, 2006 15:33:12 GMT -5
Who thinks the economy is doing great?I keep hearing everyone on TV saying it is.I used to buy that line for a while.I just came back from my local Work One center and there was alot of people there who are or have lost there jobs.I used to work with about 300 of them,not to mention the other several hundred or thousands across the state( www.in.gov/dwd/employers/TAA_notices.html ) who are losing their's.Even the staff @ Work One is downsized..How do we keep all these jobs from leaving?Before long we aren't going to have nothing around here.I think it going to come down to moving away from here if it means getting a decent job to make a living,$8-9/ hour doesn't cut it.I hope to be going back to school in a few weeks.Just all the hoops they make you jump through doesn't seem like it is worth it.They even try to scare you out of going..How's the job situation or prospects where you guys are from? |
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Post by chicobrownbear on Dec 8, 2006 15:43:59 GMT -5
my buddy in Crown Point just lost his job. Go to school. Its worth it.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 8, 2006 16:23:57 GMT -5
We (at work) have already exceeded our best year by over $100,000.00 and there is still 3 weeks left!
We do over 80% commercial work though, so when the economy is bad we don't feel it like some of the other plumbing companies do.
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Post by bsutravis on Dec 8, 2006 16:51:24 GMT -5
Job losses are always the most driving force when an individual looks at their own view of the economy. Having friends who have lost their jobs, or yourself will make even the brightest picture turn very bleak. So, trying to "sell" the fact that the economy IS doing great is a tough chore.
Just looking at jobless rates, right now we are at 4.5%, up slightly from the 5 year low of 4.4% that we hit in October. When you think back that the rate soared over 10% in the early 80's....things are WAY better on that front. The average wage of those jobs is also rising, up to $16.94/hour. Over the last 12 months, wages have grown over 4% across the nation.
Let's face it.........consumer spending is what drives the economy. When folks stop buying big screen TV's, and cars, it hurts. The overall trend is up for sales of such items. We've came a long way since 9-11, hopefully it doesn't crash after the Dems start rolling back the Bush tax cuts which helped spur this growth! Take a GOOOOOD look at your pay check, cause when those cuts are stopped, you're gonna feel it in your wallet!
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Post by Old Ironsights on Dec 8, 2006 17:31:23 GMT -5
my buddy in Crown Point just lost his job. Go to school. Its worth it. Not always. I make less than half than what I did before going back to school... and am sitting on $36K @ 8.5% ta boot. It's still more about "right place, right time, right Butt" than skills or schools...  |
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Post by Bowhunter68 on Dec 8, 2006 18:03:37 GMT -5
I don't think so. my factory is shutting down 3 days before Christmas. We get 60 days pay. And our vacation day roll over after the first of the year. I'll be hunting for a job after Christmas.
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Post by solohunter on Dec 8, 2006 18:38:37 GMT -5
We have had a good year. Though I do not believe it is good across the board. MANY automotive related jobs lost. At the grocery our dollar does not go as far.
Solohunter
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 8, 2006 20:00:35 GMT -5
Nationally it is and we are having a solid but not record breaking year. I think there are certain parts of the country and industries that are not enjoying the goode economy.
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Post by mbogo on Dec 9, 2006 10:18:49 GMT -5
Job losses are always the most driving force when an individual looks at their own view of the economy. Having friends who have lost their jobs, or yourself will make even the brightest picture turn very bleak. So, trying to "sell" the fact that the economy IS doing great is a tough chore. Just looking at jobless rates, right now we are at 4.5%, up slightly from the 5 year low of 4.4% that we hit in October. When you think back that the rate soared over 10% in the early 80's....things are WAY better on that front. The average wage of those jobs is also rising, up to $16.94/hour. Over the last 12 months, wages have grown over 4% across the nation. Let's face it.........consumer spending is what drives the economy. When folks stop buying big screen TV's, and cars, it hurts. The overall trend is up for sales of such items. We've came a long way since 9-11, hopefully it doesn't crash after the Dems start rolling back the Bush tax cuts which helped spur this growth! Take a GOOOOOD look at your pay check, cause when those cuts are stopped, you're gonna feel it in your wallet! Well said and exatly right. It is hard to judge the whole forest from the trees right in front of you. |
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Post by steiny on Dec 9, 2006 14:14:24 GMT -5
The industrial construction business is smoking hot. We are having the best year we've ever had, and it shows no sign of slowing down anytime real soon. The skilled trades pay anywhere from an average of $35 to $60K per year, and you can't find help. Skilled tradespeople just are not available. Plenty of opportunity in construction in you are reliable, willing to do a little driving every day, willing to tool up and learn a trade, and can pass a drug test.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Dec 9, 2006 15:35:47 GMT -5
And what does an "unskilled" 40y/o with a couple of useless degrees make?
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Post by steiny on Dec 9, 2006 17:19:32 GMT -5
An old boy used to tell me .... "You are probably earning, just exactly what you are worth."
If a guy isn't satisfied with his present income, job or position, then it is up to him to make the changes, sacrifices, etc. to improve it. That could mean lots of different things; education, switching jobs, relocating, trying different things, working OT, etc.
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Post by retnuhreed on Dec 9, 2006 19:45:00 GMT -5
I'm not wealthy so I doubt I will notice on my check it the Democrats roll back the tax cut for the rich. The stock market went up 14% this year. I think you would have to sum up this year as a good one.
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Post by shinglemonkey on Dec 9, 2006 23:19:55 GMT -5
An old boy used to tell me .... "You are probably earning, just exactly what you are worth." If a guy isn't satisfied with his present income, job or position, then it is up to him to make the changes, sacrifices, etc. to improve it. That could mean lots of different things; education, switching jobs, relocating, trying different things, working OT, etc. Thats is what so great about the USA, its what you make of it. |
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Post by drgreyhound on Dec 10, 2006 7:23:20 GMT -5
Job losses are always the most driving force when an individual looks at their own view of the economy. Having friends who have lost their jobs, or yourself will make even the brightest picture turn very bleak. So, trying to "sell" the fact that the economy IS doing great is a tough chore. Just looking at jobless rates, right now we are at 4.5%, up slightly from the 5 year low of 4.4% that we hit in October. When you think back that the rate soared over 10% in the early 80's....things are WAY better on that front. The average wage of those jobs is also rising, up to $16.94/hour. Over the last 12 months, wages have grown over 4% across the nation. Let's face it.........consumer spending is what drives the economy. When folks stop buying big screen TV's, and cars, it hurts. The overall trend is up for sales of such items. We've came a long way since 9-11, hopefully it doesn't crash after the Dems start rolling back the Bush tax cuts which helped spur this growth! Take a GOOOOOD look at your pay check, cause when those cuts are stopped, you're gonna feel it in your wallet! Well said and exatly right. It is hard to judge the whole forest from the trees right in front of you. Agreed!!! And I also agree that the outcome of one's life is largely dependent on one's decisions and actions, rather than what passively happens in the world around the person... |
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 10, 2006 9:34:29 GMT -5
Skilled tradespeople just are not available. Plenty of opportunity in construction in you are reliable, willing to do a little driving every day, willing to tool up and learn a trade, and can pass a drug test. Amen brother! |
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Dec 10, 2006 11:37:37 GMT -5
Skilled tradespeople just are not available. Plenty of opportunity in construction in you are reliable, willing to do a little driving every day, willing to tool up and learn a trade, and can pass a drug test. Amen brother! Yeah I know,I'm wanting to get into skilled trades.I've tried getting apprenticeships into electricity and the plumbers union.I made it all the way to the last round this year for the plumbers union to get turned down for lack of exprience.How do you get it if someone won't give you a chance to learn? I will learn a few skills when I go to school.I'll be taking welding,plumbing,electricity,and heating and cooling,and some building classes.Hopefully that will give me a start somewhere.I'm sick and tired of factories.I wish I would have did this a long time ago.I've always had interest in the construction field.. |
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Post by drgreyhound on Dec 10, 2006 12:16:37 GMT -5
Yeah I know,I'm wanting to get into skilled trades.I've tried getting apprenticeships into electricity and the plumbers union.I made it all the way to the last round this year for the plumbers union to get turned down for lack of exprience.How do you get it if someone won't give you a chance to learn? I will learn a few skills when I go to school.I'll be taking welding,plumbing,electricity,and heating and cooling,and some building classes.Hopefully that will give me a start somewhere.I'm sick and tired of factories.I wish I would have did this a long time ago.I've always had interest in the construction field.. I had a very similar experience, albeit in an entirely different field...when I was applying for my first job as a mental health tech while in college, all the group homes I was applying to did not want to hire anyone who didn't have any experience, but there was no way to get the experience they wanted unless you had worked in a group home previously. It was extremely frustrating, since I felt that I had the skills to do the job without the experience most places wanted, and I wanted to learn in a group home environment. I was very persistent (probably close to obnoxiously so!) in following up with different places and finally found a facility who was desperate for a tech due to high turnover...and I got the job, which helped me eventually get a position in case management once I had graduated from college. An education is certainly very valuable and will help in landing a job, but it really helps to just keep checking up with everyone until you find a place that's willing to "bend" on their experience requirement for whatever reason and give you an offer. I'm not sure about the field you are interested in entering, but I hope this at least offers a little hope! Best of luck to you! |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 11, 2006 7:16:43 GMT -5
It is not so much the whole job market, as it is the sectors involved in cutbacks.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 11, 2006 16:29:25 GMT -5
I'm thinking of making a complete career overhaul. I used to love my job as the Nutritional Services Director of a nursing home, but any more, I can't stand all of the paperwork, the mediocre pay, and most of all, all of the politics in our organization. I desperately want to make a change, but I have no idea as to what it is. I worked in a factory for 9 years, applying finish to wooden boxes, trophies etc. And I've done my current job for 10 years. I wish a bolt of light would hit me, and I would know which path to take. ;d
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