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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2006 4:48:56 GMT -5
Food for thought fellas: Today I was talking with a trucker I was preparing to load , he happened to live about 45 minutes west of Peoria , Illinois . He related a tale about a dude from Chicago coming down to his area looking for some land for himself and 3-4 of his friends to hunt . All they were interested in was the first week of the shotgun season . The trucker's land was wooded , and only about 130 acres . He was flabbergasted when the guy produced a cashier's check for $11,000 and asked for permission for him and his buds to hunt . The trucker laid down minimum conditions , but acquiesced . He moved his horses and cattle to the front 12 acres and let them hunt . For reference those Chicago yahoos paid $92.22 per acre to hunt for a single week , that's how bad things can get when antler worship is allowed to fester . The trucker in question is an avid deer hunter , and he gave up a week on his own property to accommodate those deep pocket dumbasses . It could happen here too , don't think for one second that it can't . . Illinois doesn't have a "first week of shotgun season".
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Post by cambygsp on Jul 22, 2006 7:29:07 GMT -5
I thought we INCREASED public hunting land the last year or two (Goose Pond \ Fairbanks)....I read somewhere rcently that the state was looking into the PURCHASE of the Minni-haha land also
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Post by pigeonflier on Jul 22, 2006 9:38:22 GMT -5
Food for thought fellas: Today I was talking with a trucker I was preparing to load , he happened to live about 45 minutes west of Peoria , Illinois . He related a tale about a dude from Chicago coming down to his area looking for some land for himself and 3-4 of his friends to hunt . All they were interested in was the first week of the shotgun season . That story sounds a little off,,, because Illinios doesnt even have a week long gun season. They have 7 days total for guns, split into a 4 day and 3 day season.
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Post by cambygsp on Jul 22, 2006 11:02:25 GMT -5
I would say that most folks from illionis call the 4 day season "the first week of gun season".....since it is a first week
Man, i just think that some folks are so ate up with ill......forget it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2006 11:15:00 GMT -5
I would say that most folks from illionis call the 4 day season "the first week of gun season".....since it is a first week Man, i just think that some folks are so ate up with ill......forget it! The first season is 3 days, that's well short of a week. That story is suspect for sure. Only near or in Pike Co. would someone offer those prices and that's iffy there.
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Post by woodmaster on Jul 22, 2006 14:18:45 GMT -5
Sounds kinda far fetched to me. A lot of people pay between$3000 and $4000 for a 3 day gun hunt with a outfitter. It's just hard to believe ANYONE would pay that kind of money to hunt property that they know nothing about.
Residents can actually hunt with shotgun/muzzleloader a total of 10 days. They also have a pistol season in January. I believe they can only kill does with a pistol.
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Post by indianahick on Jul 22, 2006 14:36:49 GMT -5
My radiologist lives in Ill. He calls the first part of Ill's gun season the first week. Not the first 3 days.
If this guy gave up that time then he probably had deprivation permits also or just something else he had to do and figured that he just made an easy 11k.
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Post by steiny on Jul 22, 2006 17:44:32 GMT -5
Heck, I'd let those guys hunt my place for only $10,000. Then I'd take that cash and go on a serious hunt.
Everybody wants to cry about "the average guy" getting forced out of hunting, if leasing and guiding become active in Indiana. Newsflash! Times are changing, and hunting is changing right along with it. It's a supply and demand thing, and leasing will soon be the way of the world around here regardless. Sit back, cry, and ignore it, and you'll be left out in the cold with no place to hunt some day. Your choice.
This "I ought to be able to hunt for free" attitude baffles me. What other recreational activities can you participate in for free? Maybe the Colts games ought to be free too, how about free golf, free bowling, free NASCAR races, free internet ...... sheesh ?
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 22, 2006 18:36:39 GMT -5
OBR and the 2 bonus antlerless restriction here in Noble county will be the end of hunting in IN.......... Solohunter You can always go next door and take a few more ...
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 22, 2006 18:43:47 GMT -5
Illinois doesn't have a "first week of shotgun season". [/quote] My radiologist lives in Ill. He calls the first part of Ill's gun season the first week. Not the first 3 days. Whatever you call it , the dipsheit from Chicago paid an outrageeous price for a relative few days of hunting , and that's what we have ot look forward to . We don't want to be like that .
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 23, 2006 1:01:16 GMT -5
lug, tell me what public hunting ground got sold here in Indiana? h.h. Old Ben Blasting Area 1 & 2
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 23, 2006 1:10:47 GMT -5
Heck, I'd let those guys hunt my place for only $10,000. Then I'd take that cash and go on a serious hunt. Everybody wants to cry about "the average guy" getting forced out of hunting, if leasing and guiding become active in Indiana. Newsflash! Times are changing, and hunting is changing right along with it. It's a supply and demand thing, and leasing will soon be the way of the world around here regardless. Sit back, cry, and ignore it, and you'll be left out in the cold with no place to hunt some day. Your choice. This "I ought to be able to hunt for free" attitude baffles me. What other recreational activities can you participate in for free? Maybe the Colts games ought to be free too, how about free golf, free bowling, free NASCAR races, free internet ...... sheesh ? You hit the nail on the head Steiny, i'm starting to think the people that refuse to see this coming, and refuse to change are the "mature" hunters thats been hunting some 30-40 years now. Either keep up with the times, or be left behind. Regardless of how sweet you think it used to be. I wonder how Indiana compares to these other states, when it comes to how many acres of public ground is offered to the residents of their respectable states. Lug
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Post by hornharvester on Jul 23, 2006 8:16:21 GMT -5
lug, tell me what public hunting ground got sold here in Indiana? h.h. Old Ben Blasting Area 1 & 2 Ive never heard of these areas. Are you sure Indiana owned them? h.h.
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Post by RiverJim on Jul 23, 2006 10:24:22 GMT -5
Heck, I'd let those guys hunt my place for only $10,000. Then I'd take that cash and go on a serious hunt. Everybody wants to cry about "the average guy" getting forced out of hunting, if leasing and guiding become active in Indiana. Newsflash! Times are changing, and hunting is changing right along with it. It's a supply and demand thing, and leasing will soon be the way of the world around here regardless. Sit back, cry, and ignore it, and you'll be left out in the cold with no place to hunt some day. Your choice. This "I ought to be able to hunt for free" attitude baffles me. What other recreational activities can you participate in for free? Maybe the Colts games ought to be free too, how about free golf, free bowling, free NASCAR races, free internet ...... sheesh ? You hit the nail on the head Steiny, i'm starting to think the people that refuse to see this coming, and refuse to change are the "mature" hunters thats been hunting some 30-40 years now. Either keep up with the times, or be left behind. Regardless of how sweet you think it used to be. I wonder how Indiana compares to these other states, when it comes to how many acres of public ground is offered to the residents of their respectable states. Lug Yeah it's sad that the times are a changing! being a homosexual is exceptable. Profanity and nudity on tv is exceptable. Killing deer in a pen is exceptable........bla bla bla......doesn't mean it's right now does it?
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 23, 2006 20:36:26 GMT -5
Old Ben Blasting Area 1 & 2 Ive never heard of these areas. Are you sure Indiana owned them? h.h. I'm sure Woody knows exactly where the area is located.
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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 24, 2006 7:08:48 GMT -5
Think about one thing i know a few states getting ready to pass laws stating how many points the buck you kill has. On top of that if we are able to take two bucks plus does that would add up for instance i hunt in Miami,Fulton, Cass, Wabash, and Kosciusko counties. i may be able to hunt mostly does but i figured that tags alone would give the state around $240.00 plus taking two bucks if they score B&C or P&Y that would up our ranking. Think about that.
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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 24, 2006 7:11:51 GMT -5
Also as far as ranking one of the H.R.B.P. scorers said last year he would love to score two big bucks from the same hunter than one he also scores for P&Y and a friend of his scores for B&C i would be nice.
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Post by eelriver on Jul 24, 2006 7:59:29 GMT -5
The other side of the coin......as grain farmers in a deer reduction county we see the deperdation caused by the over population of deer. I believe the OBR (in theroy) encourages doe reduction. The people who view and contribute to this forum may be the exception; because they understand the difference between trophy hunting and freezer meat, but how many spikes / forks do you see at check stations? I always wonder why those guys don't wait another 15 minutes and shoot what will surely be one of a dozen does that will be coming down the trail.
I view OBR as a good thing, if it encourages doe deduction, and at the same time makes taking a quality buck a better opportunity, and most of all, a more highly prized accomplishment. In Wisconsin they have gone so far as to make hunters "earn" a buck tag. When you check your doe, then you are issued a buck tag.
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 24, 2006 8:55:40 GMT -5
Food for thought fellas: Today I was talking with a trucker I was preparing to load , he happened to live about 45 minutes west of Peoria , Illinois . He related a tale about a dude from Chicago coming down to his area looking for some land for himself and 3-4 of his friends to hunt . All they were interested in was the first week of the shotgun season . That story sounds a little off,,, because Illinios doesnt even have a week long gun season. They have 7 days total for guns, split into a 4 day and 3 day season. I may be misquoting the guy , I'm not familiar with their season structure either , but bottom line those yahoos paid $11,000 for one week of hunting . How will Average Joe compete with that ?
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Post by dwhunting on Jul 24, 2006 16:28:13 GMT -5
The average Joe cannnot compete. Let's think about the amount of money one spends to hunt out of state. If this So call Joker spent $11,000 for the hunt that would equal $2,750 per person. What does a guided trip to Colorado or Montana cost now a days? How about a trip to Colorado to hunt public ground? Steiny is on the money with this one!!!!! Our state seems to be behind the times and we now have to do some cathing up.
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