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Post by Charlie on Aug 31, 2006 21:13:27 GMT -5
If I was this kid I would want to cry and then take a VERY big stick to several someones!! This kid worked for me last summer as a part time summer worker in the dept. I supervise,and is flat out and out a great kid! Someone or a couple of someones should be fired !! There should be a LARGE pay out to Matt as well !! Posts: 3 Want To Get Ticked Off !!! Read This! « on: August 31, 2006, 09:57:25 pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.goshennews.com/news/files/2006/8/8-31-2006/index.html Read this , Just unbelievable !!! UNREAL!! Charlie
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Post by firstwd on Aug 31, 2006 21:26:01 GMT -5
Did any one see the dog after his death?
My yellow Lab was taken from my yard last summer. I found him at the Shelter, after they told me they had no yellow labs on their records. I made them let me see the pens, and mine and a female were together in a pen. I have sense found out that most of the Coon Dogs that had gone through there were sold to breeders and hunters in Kentucky. I'm not saying this case is the same, but something to think about.
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Post by duff on Aug 31, 2006 22:22:38 GMT -5
Man that sucks. Being a dog owner I can understand his loss. But ultimately crap happens. What if that same dog would have been hit by a vehicle, or the person that found the dog just kept it?
I hope they do determine who was at fault, and correct it. I don't see any reason the dog owner is entitled to any settlement. As pet owners we are responsible for them as well.
As many strays/uncontained "pets" I see wondering it is amazing any of them get returned to their owners alive.
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Post by Hawkeye on Aug 31, 2006 22:31:28 GMT -5
I started to write how I felt about this , and thinking about it, can not express what or how I would feel if this ever happen to one of my pets. but it would be Terrible.I agree some type of compensation is in order.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 1, 2006 4:11:39 GMT -5
Compensation is indeed in order. They owe him the price of a black lab.
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Post by steiny on Sept 1, 2006 4:20:40 GMT -5
I'm with duff. The dog got loose and could just as easily have been run over by a car, or if running loose in a rural setting been shot by a farmer.
Pet owners need to be responsible for their pets, and nobody at the shelter should be held liable. These shelters deal with an overwhelming number of stray pets, on a shoestring budget, with marginal and volunteer help. How is a $$ settlement going to help anything?
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 1, 2006 4:27:27 GMT -5
Guess we're going to have to disagree on this one, the shelter did not give the owner a chance to reclaim his dog because they made an error. Being hit by a car is unavoidable, this was not. Dogs can get out despite the owners best intentions.
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Post by kevin1 on Sept 1, 2006 5:03:51 GMT -5
Total BS , the shelter owes that kid a new pup with all the trimmings .
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Post by deerdude on Sept 1, 2006 5:23:59 GMT -5
i cant beleive the shelter tries to deceide right off the bat if the dog is a stray or has a owner. there are some really sorry looking dogs out there that belong to some body.i know one thing for sure if it was my dog ,they could keep there compensation , i would be lookin to put a a** whupin on some body.
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Post by Decatur on Sept 1, 2006 6:10:04 GMT -5
They owe him at LEAST a new lab, complete with all shots. I would even think they would give him food for life to put a somewhat positive spin on this tragedy.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 1, 2006 6:19:49 GMT -5
Big Bummer!!! I hope that the HS steps up to plate & gets Matt a Lab. Our local HS is in constant turmoil due to it being underfunded, and staffed by partime folks. They have big hearts, but not a whole lot of common sense in these type of situations.
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 1, 2006 10:53:10 GMT -5
Regardless of the blame and the outcome in terms of replacement, there are some valuable lessons to be taken from the story for any pet owner, especially dog owners.
Sounds like the local HS has taken the opportunity to examine and reinforce their policies on handling the incoming animals, which is good.
Most important is the need for AT LEAST a collar with tags that include a name and address of the owner! We've personally taken in a few strays at my house and have not found one with a collar that has any useful return info on it. The dogs were lovable animals, but we couldn't get them to tell us where to take them. Traced one through a tag with its immunization info, and another (a chocolate lab) by dropping by the local HS office and leaving a description and our number when we had it checked for a chip. That lab was such a sweetheart that we had two offers just in our neighborhood to adopt her if we couldn't find the owner, and she had us considering the possibility of keeping her ourselves.
Better would be the chip, and better still would be both.
My son and I brought in an obviously lost shorthaired pointer once when we were canoe camping and squirrel hunting. She was friendly...... very friendly after we tossed her a couple of our leftover biscuits from breakfast. She seemed to be not quite able to muster the courage to hop aboard the canoe until my son tossed another biscuit into the floor amidship, but she quickly got aboard then 8^). Her owner's address was on her collar, complete with phone number, and a quick call to them arranged the meeting and reunion with her loving family on our trip home.
My brother rescued a lost beagle with even greater ease last winter while ML hunting for deer. A couple of treats from his day pack had the scared beagle in the back of his pickup with shell, resting on a spare blanket, and a call to the owner as we headed into the woods was the only other effort needed. The owner came to our parking spot and retrieved the dog while we were out hunting, and called my brother's cell phone to thank him and let him know that he'd done so.
In those cases, the collars did their job, and had the collars been lost, if the dogs had been chipped, that would have probably brought them home as well.
It's the owners' responsibility to provide identification and it doesn't involve much at all in time or money to do so. Even in the worst outcome, like a roadkilled animal, there's a good chance that someone will be able and willing to call the number and let the owner know, so they won't spend days or weeks searching.
For your pet's sake, and for your own, see to it that they have a good collar with the current return info on it, and get the chip as well. It's (a little) money very well spent.
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Post by Charlie on Sept 1, 2006 21:16:43 GMT -5
My feeling is that yes he should have had a collar with name and address of owner! Yes someone let the dog get out or what ever went wrong! BUT the dog just might not have been hit by a car in less then one day! Matt, after school may have found him ! No farther no mother to help Matt with the keeping of a pet,no brothers or sisters, he lives with a single aunt. Plays foodball for his high school, works every summer, so sure something could go wrong. He is 18 and not really your normal family life. This same shelter would not allow a co-workers family of mine to have a pup from there because they didnt have a fenced in yard. Now it didnt matter that the dog was going to an older fellow that has over 500 acers ( He is a farmer in this Elkhart co.)He last dog died at near 20 years old? They were just looking for a mutt! NO its better to put them to sleep under 24 hours!UNDER 24 hours and a healthy good pup was KILLED !!! NO EXCUESE PERIOD ACCEPTED !!!
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Post by hoyt2006 on Sept 1, 2006 22:02:35 GMT -5
What we have here is the classic liberal vs. conservative. The young liberal feels in his heart that even though basic, commen sense, procedures were not followed we still should have a warm and fuzzy outcome. I've been reading this site for several weeks now and it looks like it's mostly run by the young and inexperienced. You know, the ones who have the most to say. Am I correct or should I give this site a chance. I do love to hunt. I also like to BS about said hunting. What better place than the internet.
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Post by duff on Sept 1, 2006 22:40:36 GMT -5
hoyt2006, that is not an acurate assessment of the members on here. Enjoy the site and welcome.
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 2, 2006 2:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by greyhair on Sept 2, 2006 5:47:03 GMT -5
Not taking sides here - but I worked at the Terre Haute shelter for a couple years to help get through college. I might suggest that any of you sign up and volunteer for a few weekends, then see what tune you sing. Most shelters desperately need help
We would come to work in the mornings and find hungry dogs tied to the back door, and boxes of puppies and kittens piled up, all the time. I mean a lot of them too.
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Post by jcceadotcom on Sept 2, 2006 8:09:40 GMT -5
What we have here is the classic liberal vs. conservative. The young liberal feels in his heart that even though basic, commen sense, procedures were not followed we still should have a warm and fuzzy outcome. I've been reading this site for several weeks now and it looks like it's mostly run by the young and inexperienced. You know, the ones who have the most to say. Am I correct or should I give this site a chance. I do love to hunt. I also like to BS about said hunting. What better place than the internet. How in the name of John Wayne's hat can you begin to put a political spin on this? There should have been a warm and fuzzy outcome. If the H.S. has that many Labs that have to be put down, they need to look into different ways of getting the message out that they have them. Sounds to me like the H.S is full of HS. BTW, I'm not some young inexperienced kid. I've been out of high school long enough that I could have gone back to the first grade and graduated two more times. Us older folks have some pretty strong opinions also.
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Post by Charlie on Sept 2, 2006 20:46:47 GMT -5
What we have here is the classic liberal vs. conservative. The young liberal feels in his heart that even though basic, commen sense, procedures were not followed we still should have a warm and fuzzy outcome. I've been reading this site for several weeks now and it looks like it's mostly run by the young and inexperienced. You know, the ones who have the most to say. Am I correct or should I give this site a chance. I do love to hunt. I also like to BS about said hunting. What better place than the internet. ============================================================================================ Talk about an off the wall reply?? Oh ya I am 54 and sure as heck don't feel like a young anything. Charlie
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Post by Charlie on Sept 2, 2006 20:49:27 GMT -5
Not taking sides here - but I worked at the Terre Haute shelter for a couple years to help get through college. I might suggest that any of you sign up and volunteer for a few weekends, then see what tune you sing. Most shelters desperately need help We would come to work in the mornings and find hungry dogs tied to the back door, and boxes of puppies and kittens piled up, all the time. I mean a lot of them too. ============================================================================================ Yes I could only guess how bad this job would be, that someone has to do! But I am having a hard time with the lest than 24 hours kill!
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