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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 19, 2006 15:40:15 GMT -5
look at these deer and let me know if we have came a long way.   my grandpa harvested them back in the seventies. |
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Post by Decatur on Jul 19, 2006 15:43:42 GMT -5
Isn't the top rack a Mulie?
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Post by hoosierhunter06 on Jul 19, 2006 15:55:51 GMT -5
no a 12pt. whitetail buck my grandpa shot him back in 1976 on his farm man do i miss him he died before the 1989 deer shotgun season i call him the spirit of '76 buck
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Post by steiny on Jul 19, 2006 16:56:59 GMT -5
I hate to call BS on this, but that top right photo in your first post is a Muley Hoosierhunter06.
Plain and simple, straight up, no doubt about it.
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Post by woodmaster on Jul 19, 2006 18:42:56 GMT -5
Are you saying the horn mount on the top is a whitetail? If you think you grandfather killed that on Indiana farm, you are mistaken. That is a mule deer........plain and simple.
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Post by woodmaster on Jul 19, 2006 18:47:20 GMT -5
I forgot to answer the question. I don't believe racks are getting bigger on 1 1/2 year old deer (the 2 shoulder mounts). I believe there are a lot more older bucks being killed. Hunters are letting the smaller bucks walk and letting them grow up. Plus there are a lot more deer to choose from than in the 1970's.
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Post by cambygsp on Jul 19, 2006 19:16:05 GMT -5
I'll second what Woodmaster said!
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Post by mbogo on Jul 20, 2006 5:25:32 GMT -5
I don't know about the 70's because I wasn't born yet then but I saw a lot of big bucks during the late 80's. The hunting pressure wasn't nearly as intense back then as it is now.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 20, 2006 6:21:51 GMT -5
Hoosierhunter, no offense, but your avatar freaks me out! :-)
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Post by jstalljon on Jul 20, 2006 6:22:58 GMT -5
Hoosierhunter, no offense, but your avatar freaks me out! :-) x5 Mulley in my opinion too. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jul 20, 2006 6:58:15 GMT -5
Hee Hee, I like the avitar.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 20, 2006 7:40:24 GMT -5
"Across the board" in my neck of the woods. No! The same @ best.
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Post by indianahick on Jul 20, 2006 8:29:43 GMT -5
Well I actually started deer hunting in 1970. And compared to the size of the herds then to now we have increased the amount of deer. Conversely there are more hunters now than then too. Back then the idea was that if you let the mature bucks walk and breed it would increase the herds. That is not to say that there were not a decent percentage of larger bucks taken. But if you seen 6-8 deer in the whole season you were considered lucky. Does were protected in gun but you could take one in archery but then you were done until shotgun and it was buck only.
The worst in my opinion was in the 90's when they legalized handgun and implemented bonus antlerless. For a while there you could take a buck with a bow, shotgun, muzzleloader, handgun as each license was sold separately. Plus there were the bonus military refuge hunts that would allow either sex too.
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 20, 2006 8:46:17 GMT -5
If anything , it's possible that they may actually be getting smaller in the future due to loss of habitat and the decline of farming . Less ag crops means lower amounts of quality forage for them , less woods means less wild mast . Both translate to reduced numbers of deer survivng the lean months and potentially smaller racks . I saw very few deer during my teens in the 70s , but the bucks I saw back then seemed fatter and may have had larger antlers than the ones I see today . We had a lot more woods and farms back then .
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Post by pbr on Jul 20, 2006 11:59:48 GMT -5
In my area there are more deer and more bucks. More bigger bucks too, but it has been that way for quite some time.
If anything I would say I am in a holding pattern in my area.
Some nice bucks and an occasional whopper. That is how it should be.
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Post by jameslyon on Jul 20, 2006 16:37:35 GMT -5
no a 12pt. whitetail buck I only count eight points on that mule deer's rack. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 20, 2006 16:46:20 GMT -5
Which reminds me.....Back 20 or so years ago Woodmaster and myself went to an antler measuring session at the Evansville gun Club. A man brought in a very nice, but bleached out mule deer rack and laid it on the table and asked for it to be scored. The DNR employee said that he didn't know how to score a mule deer rack and this measuring session was for Indiana whitetails. The man insisted that it was an Indiana whitetail deer rack... S-u-u-u-r-r-e it was...  To make a long story short, the rack did meet the minimum of 140 even with the deductions for the birfurcations and is now in the book. .
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Post by tilesetter on Jul 21, 2006 16:09:16 GMT -5
good one JL,nice mule deer rack,thought you weren't posting on OBK's threads anymore?Ha!Ha!
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Post by deerdude on Jul 21, 2006 17:20:48 GMT -5
ive seen a couple nice bucks around my area which is a huge improvement from a few years ago.and alot of guys i talk with say they have seen a few bruisers,so yea ,i think something is going the right way.
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Post by quigly on Jul 21, 2006 18:26:43 GMT -5
Same old stuff in my area. No better, nor no worse.
All deer hunting is good.
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my grandpa harvested them back in the seventies.
