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Post by steiny on Mar 15, 2006 18:04:48 GMT -5
I like OBR and most everyone I talk to about OBR, likes it too.
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 15, 2006 18:18:20 GMT -5
I like OBR and most everyone I talk to about OBR, likes it too. Ok-I can now say I`ve talked with people who like, and want the OBR. I`ll still fight it as best I can, and try to get back to 2 bucks a season. And I apologize for stirring something up that all of you have obviously already gone over. |
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Post by raporter1 on Mar 15, 2006 22:07:31 GMT -5
One more time.....favor it.
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 15, 2006 23:51:19 GMT -5
I`m gonna vent just a little bit-just for a minute-but how the heck can anyone be for this idiotic regulation? There is ZERO scientific data to support it`s effectiveness, there were very few hunters who killed 2 bucks a year anyway, and it just smacks of the so called "Trophy" management, and that will ruin deer hunting.
Read the book by Brad Herndon-Mapping Trophy Bucks. The book tells how to read terrain and understand where the deer will mostly travel- and he shows that Indiana has had many B&C, and P&Y book bucks long before the OBR.
I just don`t get it. Even Dr. Mitchell doesn`t believe there is any merit to it. How can you feel that all these amature biologists in these small groups know better than Dr. Mitchell?
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Post by mbogo on Mar 16, 2006 6:53:15 GMT -5
It isn't too hard to think of other issues that always seem to attract a long line of people with clubs in their hands just waiting for the chance to have a go at the proverbial "dead horse" but with nary a complaint. These issues keep coming up because they are important to many hunters. Discussion of them, even though it has been done before, is a good thing especially when new people are involved.
The OBR is nothing more than a placebo; It makes you feel good if you believe in it strongly enough but just like a sugar pill, it can't be scientifically proven to have really done anything for you.
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Post by hornharvester on Mar 16, 2006 7:50:48 GMT -5
It isn't too hard to think of other issues that always seem to attract a long line of people with clubs in their hands just waiting for the chance to have a go at the proverbial "dead horse" but with nary a complaint. These issues keep coming up because they are important to many hunters. Discussion of them, even though it has been done before, is a good thing especially when new people are involved. The OBR is nothing more than a placebo; It makes you feel good if you believe in it strongly enough but just like a sugar pill, it can't be scientifically proven to have really done anything for you. Exactly my thoughts too mbogo. h.h. |
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Post by laststraw1701 on Mar 18, 2006 23:46:45 GMT -5
I also feel I was cheated, I found out about the rule change only after visiting a sporting goods shop south of Indianapolis. I was never asked in a survey nor did I attend a meeting.
How can I help? We need to return to how it was
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 19, 2006 1:25:10 GMT -5
I also feel I was cheated, I found out about the rule change only after visiting a sporting goods shop south of Indianapolis. I was never asked in a survey nor did I attend a meeting. How can I help? We need to return to how it was Thank you-I never heard about any meetings or surveys either. When I contacted the new DNR head, Hupfer, he assured me that there were both available before the decision was made. I say again-it was a very VOCAL, very organized MINORITY that pushed the OBR down our throats. |
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Post by kodiak50 on Mar 19, 2006 5:43:22 GMT -5
I doubt that after the three years of OBO we are the minority. OBO works!!!!!!
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Post by hunter480 on Mar 19, 2006 12:46:13 GMT -5
I doubt that after the three years of OBO we are the minority. OBO works!!!!!! NOT!!!!! |
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Post by hoosier on Mar 19, 2006 22:33:31 GMT -5
OBR equals El'Stinko! I have read and read proponents thoughts and musings about this trial, but, for the life of me I can see ZERO benefits in their statements. Beyond surfing the internet for other's feelings about the OBR, I can say it has made NO appreciable differences in the hunting in my part of Indiana. I want to go back to the way things were before (when 99% of the hunters of the state were happy). I have heard that the OBR was not set up to grow bigger bucks. My question has always been...what's it's reason then? To date nobody has been able to come up with a solid answer. If bigger bucks are what we want then I would recommend more law enforcement in the nooks and crannies of rural Indiana between sundown and sunup. Then you will see some more jumbos. OBR saves so few bucks in a year, if at all, the results are unmeasureable if not nonexistant. I am not a politician and it is because of legislation like this that keeps me out of the political arena. In the end, that is what all this boils down to...POLITICS! Sincerely, another voiceless, hapless, multi- weapon, yet discriminating buck hunter who kills more does per year than the average 3 hunters, and rarely "double dips" the bucks, OBR opponent, Hoosier.
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Post by rmc on Mar 20, 2006 0:17:09 GMT -5
I've been practicing QDM on 400 acres since 1992. I have seen a lot of success since that time but not in the leaps and bounds of the last 3 seasons. It won't effect me much if they go back to a 2 buck limit. But from what I have seen in the feild and many of the hunters I know it has made a difference in my area.
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Post by Rick Lyon on Apr 3, 2006 11:46:28 GMT -5
It's not OBR that bothers me. It's;
#1 - The way it came to be.
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#2 - What's on OBR's heels by the same group.
Let's see......I seem to remember talk of Antlered Deer being by draw only, antler point and/or width restrictions...who knows what else might be in the works.
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Post by kevin1 on Apr 3, 2006 12:45:00 GMT -5
It's not OBR that bothers me. It's; #1 - The way it came to be. AND #2 - What's on OBR's heels by the same group. Let's see......I seem to remember talk of Antlered Deer being by draw only, antler point and/or width restrictions...who knows what else might be in the works. Those are some of my concerns too , some folks just can't leave well enough alone . They'll wrongly credit any gains to the OBR before the data has been fully interpreted and howl for even more restrictions , all in the name of a little bit of tawdry glory . Antler obsession will be the death of deer hunting some day . |
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Post by hunter480 on Apr 3, 2006 12:56:45 GMT -5
It's not OBR that bothers me. It's; #1 - The way it came to be. AND #2 - What's on OBR's heels by the same group. Let's see......I seem to remember talk of Antlered Deer being by draw only, antler point and/or width restrictions...who knows what else might be in the works. Those are some of my concerns too , some folks just can't leave well enough alone . They'll wrongly credit any gains to the OBR before the data has been fully interpreted and howl for even more restrictions , all in the name of a little bit of tawdry glory . Antler obsession will be the death of deer hunting some day . Amen. |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 4, 2006 6:31:15 GMT -5
It's not OBR that bothers me. It's; #1 - The way it came to be. AND #2 - What's on OBR's heels by the same group. Let's see......I seem to remember talk of Antlered Deer being by draw only, antler point and/or width restrictions...who knows what else might be in the works. Those are some of my concerns too , some folks just can't leave well enough alone . They'll wrongly credit any gains to the OBR before the data has been fully interpreted and howl for even more restrictions , all in the name of a little bit of tawdry glory . Antler obsession will be the death of deer hunting some day .[/quot You nailed it!!!!!!!  |
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