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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:16:29 GMT -5
Don’t know if any of you have your kids in 4 H, but it’s a great experience for kids and parents alike. We just got done with ours, everything loaded out and back home, except the goats that go straight to the sale barn tomorrow morning. The whole week kinda kicks your butt, but it’s worth it. Some highlites:  My daughters Home Decor project that was grand champ and selected for the state fair |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:18:01 GMT -5
 My son’s welding project, a 22 cal shooting target. |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:18:45 GMT -5
 My youngest daughter’s photography project. |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:19:37 GMT -5
 Our tent after day 1 and too much rain overnight. |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:20:59 GMT -5
 My youngest and oldest (done with 4H now), and her showmanship banner for meat goats |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:22:59 GMT -5
 My son and daughter with the spot gilts that we farrowed, got first and second in their class, but then went down to the champions of the 2 other spot gilts classes. I was still tickled with that. |
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Post by marshallco on Jul 19, 2024 21:25:30 GMT -5
 My son with one of our spot barrows, only managed a fourth place. My youngest daughter also got reserve grand champion dairy goat weather, but I don’t have a pic. All in all, a pretty decent year. |
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Post by esshup on Jul 19, 2024 23:19:34 GMT -5
Does you son know the guy in Argos that makes targets like that out of AR500 steel? I have one of them for the center fire rifle. Even being AR500 and 1/2" thick my 7mm Allen Magnum still puts a pretty good divot in it shooting 180g Berger VLD Hybrid bullets.
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4H fair
Jul 20, 2024 5:44:16 GMT -5
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Post by marshallco on Jul 20, 2024 5:44:16 GMT -5
Does you son know the guy in Argos that makes targets like that out of AR500 steel? I have one of them for the center fire rifle. Even being AR500 and 1/2" thick my 7mm Allen Magnum still puts a pretty good divot in it shooting 180g Berger VLD Hybrid bullets. I know a guy near Bourbon that has R&Z Targets, but no idea what kind of steel he uses. We did look at his website for the idea for this one. Tested it out yesterday, works pretty good! |
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Post by span870 on Jul 20, 2024 9:02:47 GMT -5
Was never a member of 4h and something always bothered me or maybe confused me. Maybe someone could answer. The top winning animals go on to get bid on in the sale barn. After that from what I understand most go to the locker. If the animal is that good to win, why aren't they used in a breeding program? Seems opposite of what I'd think would happen.
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Post by marshallco on Jul 20, 2024 12:47:07 GMT -5
Every large male animal (beef, pigs, goats, sheep) is castrated, they are meant for meat. They’re matured, and they have met their purpose in this world. Most large female animals do go back home, and can’t even be sold in our auction. There some exceptions, like a commercial doe (female meat goat), but again the decision has already been made that they aren’t the best breeding stock, and will wind up at a butcher no matter what. I can’t tell you much about smaller stuff like rabbits and chickens, but I do know that plenty of critters go home to make next years show stock.
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Post by esshup on Jul 20, 2024 22:55:16 GMT -5
Does you son know the guy in Argos that makes targets like that out of AR500 steel? I have one of them for the center fire rifle. Even being AR500 and 1/2" thick my 7mm Allen Magnum still puts a pretty good divot in it shooting 180g Berger VLD Hybrid bullets. I know a guy near Bourbon that has R&Z Targets, but no idea what kind of steel he uses. We did look at his website for the idea for this one. Tested it out yesterday, works pretty good! Yep!! That's the guy that I was thinking of. |
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4H fair
Jul 20, 2024 22:57:04 GMT -5
Post by esshup on Jul 20, 2024 22:57:04 GMT -5
Every large male animal (beef, pigs, goats, sheep) is castrated, they are meant for meat. They’re matured, and they have met their purpose in this world. Most large female animals do go back home, and can’t even be sold in our auction. There some exceptions, like a commercial doe (female meat goat), but again the decision has already been made that they aren’t the best breeding stock, and will wind up at a butcher no matter what. I can’t tell you much about smaller stuff like rabbits and chickens, but I do know that plenty of critters go home to make next years show stock. And does the majority of the $$ that they bring go to the kid that raised and showed it? |
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4H fair
Jul 21, 2024 7:43:47 GMT -5
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Post by marshallco on Jul 21, 2024 7:43:47 GMT -5
Yes, the fairs auction committee keeps a small percentage of each sale, like maybe 5%? I’m not really sure of the exact amount, but I know it’s not much.
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4H fair
Jul 29, 2024 9:56:03 GMT -5
Post by astronankin on Jul 29, 2024 9:56:03 GMT -5
Congrats to your kids on doing so well at the fair! I was a 10 year member in Warren County, still involved in Poultry and the Sheep and Goat shows. And still showing open show chickens at State... Guess I'll have to look for that Home Decor project! Let those of us who won't get to see it know how it goes at State.
The bob on the goat's tail looks great. I have never been able to get mine done properly.
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Post by astronankin on Jul 29, 2024 10:03:39 GMT -5
Was never a member of 4h and something always bothered me or maybe confused me. Maybe someone could answer. The top winning animals go on to get bid on in the sale barn. After that from what I understand most go to the locker. If the animal is that good to win, why aren't they used in a breeding program? Seems opposite of what I'd think would happen. Depending on the county there are different rules related to the auction and barn bid. Auction animals are usually meat animals, but can be breeding animals (at least in my county). Each exhibitor can only sell one animal in the auction and it has to go to the buyer (knacker or someone else in the animal sale business). Exhibitors can sell as many animals as they want in the barn bid and those animals also go to the buyer. The buyer may then take them straight to market, sell them at a sale barn, or feed them out until they are big enough for the sale barn or market (There's an entire business chain here). Any animal the exhibitor wants to keep must go home before a certain time unless otherwise negotiated with the local extension office or project superintendent. There are people in my county who win everything and take those animals home. There are also people who win and sell those animals. There are also the exceptional, cheating, few who sell an animal in the auction then take it home (happened this year; worst thing it was a friend of one of our 4-H Fair Board members so it will likely get "overlooked"). If you want to use the animal for shows and/or breeding, take it home first instead of selling it first! |
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Jul 29, 2024 10:05:52 GMT -5
Post by astronankin on Jul 29, 2024 10:05:52 GMT -5
4-h fairs are always exhausting. My family just wants to sleep for the next week.
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Post by astronankin on Aug 17, 2024 19:14:23 GMT -5
Dad and I were at the State Fair today showing some chickens in the open poultry show (birds went down yesterday; judged today; go home tomorrow) and I managed to persuade him to walk up to the north end where Centennial Hall is located with all the static projects. Managed to find your daughter's Home Decor project on the 2nd floor of Centennial Hall in the corner, nice job! Next to a beautifully done up piano.
It was interesting to see the number of special merits between projects. Cake Decorating had a lot, while Aerospace, Entomology, and a few other projects didn't have too many. At State Fair, the projects given special merit are those that are good enough to be considered for Sweepstakes.
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Post by marshallco on Aug 17, 2024 21:42:45 GMT -5
Dad and I were at the State Fair today showing some chickens in the open poultry show (birds went down yesterday; judged today; go home tomorrow) and I managed to persuade him to walk up to the north end where Centennial Hall is located with all the static projects. Managed to find your daughter's Home Decor project on the 2nd floor of Centennial Hall in the corner, nice job! Next to a beautifully done up piano. It was interesting to see the number of special merits between projects. Cake Decorating had a lot, while Aerospace, Entomology, and a few other projects didn't have too many. At State Fair, the projects given special merit are those that are good enough to be considered for Sweepstakes. Well thanks Astronakin! Don’t think we are going to make it down there, but good to know it’s on display. Some lucky person gets to go pick it up at some point and bring it back home. |
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Post by marshallco on Aug 17, 2024 21:44:08 GMT -5
BTW, how’d the poultry do?
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