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Post by buckbuster13 on Jul 14, 2024 20:02:42 GMT -5
My fear is that a the copycat mentality will become, I hope I’m wrong.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2024 20:06:00 GMT -5
Dan Bongino (ex- Secret Service) on Jesse Watters says that Secret Service has but one job - “keep the body alive”
They can’t do that by allowing a perp to shoot the first shot.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2024 21:31:53 GMT -5
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Post by greyhair on Jul 14, 2024 21:33:38 GMT -5
Discord is the social media platform where he had an account. Reports are that a lab is working on getting into his phone.
Another under the radar nut job
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2024 21:51:56 GMT -5
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jul 14, 2024 22:42:17 GMT -5
I’m not usually inclined to buy into most conspiracy theories, and I hate it that I absolutely believe this to be the case, but I think it’s got to be an inside job.
Forget all of the speculation and media commentary, just watching all of the cell phone footage and interviews from the witnesses in attendance, I just don’t see how any other conclusion can be reasonably drawn.
I don’t think that either Trump or Biden are even remotely safe at this point. Whoever is pulling the strings wants them both out.
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Post by esshup on Jul 15, 2024 0:24:21 GMT -5
I just listened to a Ben Shapiro feature on this fiasco. He stated, from sources, that the SS is mandated to be reactive, not proactive. In other words, don't fire unless fired upon. I thought the source was full of $#!t, but apparently not. I'll bet that there will be some changes in personnel and policy in the SS very soon. Ben or not I find that hard to believe. The SS number one goal is to protect their assigned individual. That negates the “let them shoot first”. I thought is's main focus was on counterfitting............ By the end of the Civil War, nearly one-third of all currency in circulation was counterfeit. As a result, the country's financial stability was in jeopardy. To address this concern, the Secret Service was established in 1865 as a bureau in the Treasury Department to suppress widespread counterfeiting.
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Post by greghopper on Jul 15, 2024 5:01:22 GMT -5
Ben or not I find that hard to believe. The SS number one goal is to protect their assigned individual. That negates the “let them shoot first”. I thought is's main focus was on counterfitting............ By the end of the Civil War, nearly one-third of all currency in circulation was counterfeit. As a result, the country's financial stability was in jeopardy. To address this concern, the Secret Service was established in 1865 as a bureau in the Treasury Department to suppress widespread counterfeiting. Not anymore… www.secretservice.gov/The Secret Service was, until 2003, part of the Department of the Treasury, due to their initial mandate of combatting counterfeiting of U.S. currency.[4] The agency has protected U.S. presidents and presidential candidates since 1901. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jul 15, 2024 6:33:30 GMT -5
It goes to show that all that hate-kill the Trump speech by the Demarcates the last couple years it taking it's toll. It has ramped up just the last few months. The country is not a great country anymore. A lot of evil like the rest of the world. On big melting pot of evil.
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Post by joebuck on Jul 15, 2024 9:08:33 GMT -5
My friends, i don't get it. I just do not understand. I'm not trying to stoke any more of the "us vs. Them" mentality because its the last thing we need. It's been a little over 36 hours since this happened and i've witnessed reactions that do not make sense. (Background) i live in the northwest corner of lake county, very blue area owned by the dems for 50+ years. All my family growing up was in the mills and at B.P.; working class, blue collars, hard hats, union halls, the whole nine yards. So yeah, sometimes if i want to maintain a relationship with family members and friends, i gotta keep my opinions to myself. I've had one very outspokenly left person hem and haw and say "well, he inflicted his hate on us plenty of times"; "wouldnt be surprised if it was faked, straight outta the wwe playbook"; "registered republican but donated democrat - hard to get a read on that"(about the shooter). I went to a birthday party saturday night, no one was talking about it, life was normal. Random quotes: i dont wish him dead, but i'm kinda disappointed. All these guns in the u.s. and they still missed. Im like, damn. If it was biden yeah i'd be upset. (Friend showing me a meme titled "everyone in america this morning": it was the scene from "mulan" where the dragon is saying "you missed! How could you miss he was 3 feet from you!") Another associate ignoring everything and basically doubling down on his anti trump posts in social media. Maybe NOW his ass will get the picture, not everybody loves him! You get the idea. No apology, no remorse, no "maybe i'm wrong", no "we need to cool out", no "we need to come together"; just more of the same blind hatred and complete indifference to the fact that a man came THIS CLOSE to losing his life. So yeah, thats what it looks like in the blue corner of lake county.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2024 9:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by beermaker on Jul 15, 2024 10:37:31 GMT -5
It goes to show that all that hate-kill the Trump speech by the Demarcates the last couple years it taking it's toll. It has ramped up just the last few months. The country is not a great country anymore. A lot of evil like the rest of the world. On big melting pot of evil. It's apparent that the idiots that constantly refer to Trump as "Hitler" didn't pay much attention in history class. Hitler orchestrated the genocide of SIX MILLION Jews. If Trump has called for the murder of anyone, I missed it. The "end of our Democracy" and "this may be our last election" are both just as absurd. Well, not really, but close. Just what does "the end of our Democracy" mean as the Democrats claim? Someone please explain. Does anyone with a brain actually think it is possible to end our electoral process?
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Post by bill9068 on Jul 15, 2024 12:29:48 GMT -5
It goes to show that all that hate-kill the Trump speech by the Demarcates the last couple years it taking it's toll. It has ramped up just the last few months. The country is not a great country anymore. A lot of evil like the rest of the world. On big melting pot of evil. It's apparent that the idiots that constantly refer to Trump as "Hitler" didn't pay much attention in history class. Hitler orchestrated the genocide of SIX MILLION Jews. If Trump has called for the murder of anyone, I missed it. The "end of our Democracy" and "this may be our last election" are both just as absurd. Well, not really, but close. Just what does "the end of our Democracy" mean as the Democrats claim? Someone please explain. Does anyone with a brain actually think it is possible to end our electoral process? Believing that logic he would have done that his first term. I may never understand why democrats hate Trump so badly? Both of these candidates have track records now, which one would you prefer?
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Jul 15, 2024 12:36:16 GMT -5
It goes to show that all that hate-kill the Trump speech by the Demarcates the last couple years it taking it's toll. It has ramped up just the last few months. The country is not a great country anymore. A lot of evil like the rest of the world. On big melting pot of evil. It's apparent that the idiots that constantly refer to Trump as "Hitler" didn't pay much attention in history class. Hitler orchestrated the genocide of SIX MILLION Jews. If Trump has called for the murder of anyone, I missed it. The "end of our Democracy" and "this may be our last election" are both just as absurd. Well, not really, but close. Just what does "the end of our Democracy" mean as the Democrats claim? Someone please explain. Does anyone with a brain actually think it is possible to end our electoral process? What's her name showed his head cut off and full of blood. Remember that one. Even Senate Leader Chuck Schumer just a few weeks ago called Trump out to be dangerous and causing millions to suffer. His banner stated " Make America Sick Again" I lot of hate.
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Post by greghopper on Jul 15, 2024 13:46:49 GMT -5
Good stuff…
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Post by beermaker on Jul 15, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -5
It's apparent that the idiots that constantly refer to Trump as "Hitler" didn't pay much attention in history class. Hitler orchestrated the genocide of SIX MILLION Jews. If Trump has called for the murder of anyone, I missed it. The "end of our Democracy" and "this may be our last election" are both just as absurd. Well, not really, but close. Just what does "the end of our Democracy" mean as the Democrats claim? Someone please explain. Does anyone with a brain actually think it is possible to end our electoral process? What's her name showed his head cut off and full of blood. Remember that one. Even Senate Leader Chuck Schumer just a few weeks ago called Trump out to be dangerous and causing millions to suffer. His banner stated " Make America Sick Again" I lot of hate. That would be the talentless Kathy Griffin. Biden referred to Trump as Hitler within the last few weeks. They are all guilty of fear-mongering.
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Post by jtkelly on Jul 15, 2024 18:07:16 GMT -5
Trump is going to be elected, like it or not.
I hope he gives "them" every last thing "they" deserve, more, harder, and longer and with out stop. I know who my enemies are by looking at who hates Trump right out loud and in OUR face the last EIGHT YEARS. Kiss and make up isn't going to drive out evil and stop the garbage of the last 4 years any more than painting stripes on a donkey is going to make it a zebra.
This "unity" crap is for dumb suckers. Don't be one.
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Post by sakorifle on Jul 15, 2024 18:34:38 GMT -5
Iam a bit late to the conversation but I'm here interested in all your thoughts over this attempted assassination. Mr trump is a very lucky man, the shooter was an amateur and not a good shot. My condolences and thoughts are for the family that lost there father and the injured. Serious questions need to be answered.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2024 19:58:04 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2024 21:02:43 GMT -5
sakorifle,
You are right on all counts. Trump was lucky the kid was not a very good shot. As you know 130 yards is a chip shot for a good shooter. My guess is that he was just throwing a lot of lead (I’ve heard 8 shots) in Trumps direction and nicked his ear. Unfortunately three others were wounded with one dying.
Security failure all the way around. I’ve been around a long time and I’ve got to say that this administration is the most incompetent ever. They seem to be more interested in Diversity. Equity and Inclusion (DEI) also called “checking the boxes, than hiring the best people…
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