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Post by esshup on Jan 22, 2024 14:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by parrothead on Jan 22, 2024 15:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Jan 22, 2024 16:32:23 GMT -5
I couildn't get to open, but I'll try once I'm at a better internet connection speed wise.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 22, 2024 18:58:25 GMT -5
Not a mature buck. Looks like a 1 or 2 year old.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 22, 2024 19:21:06 GMT -5
Got this from a friend last year   |
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Post by genesis273 on Jan 22, 2024 19:27:12 GMT -5
Kill em all!!!
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Post by saltydog on Jan 23, 2024 6:01:35 GMT -5
Makes me want to go Elvis on the laptop to smoke em ! |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 12:28:48 GMT -5
We try to keep population in check, by killing a few annually, but like everything they serve a purpose in the eco system. There have been many studies on coyote's and from what I have read over killing in a area often has a opposite effect on populations. Studies have shown that female coyote's will have larger liters when populations are low, and smaller liters when population levels are higher. Home ranges of coyote's can be rather large as well with some being as large as 25 square miles and larger.
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Post by hornzilla on Jan 23, 2024 12:53:02 GMT -5
Not a mature buck. Looks like a 1 or 2 year old. In no means a fawn either. Still one less deer in the population. Keep the yotes in check. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 13:11:17 GMT -5
Not a mature buck. Looks like a 1 or 2 year old. In no means a fawn either. Still one less deer in the population. Keep the yotes in check. LOL. Coyote's probably have same opinion of humans. Wonder who kills more ?? Wild animals kill to survive, we kill for sport and a little meat in freezer. Agree, like all predators populations need kept in check, but do not agree with the "kill them all" people. |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 23, 2024 14:28:09 GMT -5
Not a mature buck. Looks like a 1 or 2 year old. Actually looks like two different Deer to me. |
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Post by esshup on Jan 23, 2024 14:57:14 GMT -5
We try to keep population in check, by killing a few annually, but like everything they serve a purpose in the eco system. There have been many studies on coyote's and from what I have read over killing in a area often has a opposite effect on populations. Studies have shown that female coyote's will have larger liters when populations are low, and smaller liters when population levels are higher. Home ranges of coyote's can be rather large as well with some being as large as 25 square miles and larger. But if we trap and eliminate a bunch, that means that there are less adults in the area. The litters are larger to fill the void, but if the trapping is kept up, then the dumb pups get caught, correct? Then we have to wait another 6+ months for another litter. We will never get them all, but whittling down on their numbers can't hurt, and with the pee poor fur prices, the people that are trapping them are minimal. Nothing like it was in the mid to late 70's and early 80's. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 15:32:56 GMT -5
We try to keep population in check, by killing a few annually, but like everything they serve a purpose in the eco system. There have been many studies on coyote's and from what I have read over killing in a area often has a opposite effect on populations. Studies have shown that female coyote's will have larger liters when populations are low, and smaller liters when population levels are higher. Home ranges of coyote's can be rather large as well with some being as large as 25 square miles and larger. But if we trap and eliminate a bunch, that means that there are less adults in the area. The litters are larger to fill the void, but if the trapping is kept up, then the dumb pups get caught, correct? Then we have to wait another 6+ months for another litter. We will never get them all, but whittling down on their numbers can't hurt, and with the pee poor fur prices, the people that are trapping them are minimal. Nothing like it was in the mid to late 70's and early 80's. Much depends on habitat, but ranges can be huge, EX. this summer we had no coyote pictures for 4-5 months, then end Sept. we were getting 6-7;pics a day. Kill a dominant male in area, and shortly 2-3 will move in trying to take over. A dominant male will actually run other males off. Trapping for $ not gonna work. Last I checked a good yote fur might fetch $20-$25, we shoot and bury them. Raccoons and possums are a bigger threat to turkeys then yotes, and yes coyotes can take dn adult deer, but it's rare. Fawns mortality would be more of a concern. Again we shoot when see , and IF seeing more than like pull out calls and night vision. |
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 23, 2024 16:18:50 GMT -5
I hunted a big wigs place he wouldn't let me kill a yote. He wanted deer dead though (crops and trees) so it was odd he also said they kill moles and voles and mice. I think other people around him hammered them because I never saw many.
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Post by welder on Jan 23, 2024 17:40:46 GMT -5
But if we trap and eliminate a bunch, that means that there are less adults in the area. The litters are larger to fill the void, but if the trapping is kept up, then the dumb pups get caught, correct? Then we have to wait another 6+ months for another litter. We will never get them all, but whittling down on their numbers can't hurt, and with the pee poor fur prices, the people that are trapping them are minimal. Nothing like it was in the mid to late 70's and early 80's. Much depends on habitat, but ranges can be huge, EX. this summer we had no coyote pictures for 4-5 months, then end Sept. we were getting 6-7;pics a day. Kill a dominant male in area, and shortly 2-3 will move in trying to take over. A dominant male will actually run other males off. Trapping for $ not gonna work. Last I checked a good yote fur might fetch $20-$25, we shoot and bury them. Raccoons and possums are a bigger threat to turkeys then yotes, and yes coyotes can take dn adult deer, but it's rare. Fawns mortality would be more of a concern. Again we shoot when see , and IF seeing more than like pull out calls and night vision. The late September pictures were extremely likely dispersal coyotes. Good coyote trappers are extremely good at pinpointing such locations and trapping them every year. Dispersal locations give up unbelievable numbers of coyotes every year. |
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Post by hornzilla on Jan 23, 2024 19:01:16 GMT -5
In no means a fawn either. Still one less deer in the population. Keep the yotes in check. LOL. Coyote's probably have same opinion of humans. Wonder who kills more ?? Wild animals kill to survive, we kill for sport and a little meat in freezer. Agree, like all predators populations need kept in check, but do not agree with the "kill them all" people. We will agree to disagree on the "kill them all" people. If a farm or hunting ground is truly being managed for deer and turkeys. Then every Yote. Coon. Possum and Skunk is taken out. By whatever means. Rifle, traps, and hounds. And the only reason the Bobcat isn't on that list is because there protected unfortunately. And they need addressed here very soon. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 19:24:27 GMT -5
LOL. Coyote's probably have same opinion of humans. Wonder who kills more ?? Wild animals kill to survive, we kill for sport and a little meat in freezer. Agree, like all predators populations need kept in check, but do not agree with the "kill them all" people. We will agree to disagree on the "kill them all" people. If a farm or hunting ground is truly being managed for deer and turkeys. Then every Yote. Coon. Possum and Skunk is taken out. By whatever means. Rifle, traps, and hounds. And the only reason the Bobcat isn't on that list is because there protected unfortunately. And they need addressed here very soon. I manage my properties for wildlife. Deer and turkey populations are both great, turkeys prolly best I have seen since moved here 23 years. Not out to kill off any species. Just posted on another site how well turkeys are doing. Quality habitat has a lot to do with it. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 19:28:08 GMT -5
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Post by hornzilla on Jan 23, 2024 19:48:40 GMT -5
We will agree to disagree on the "kill them all" people. If a farm or hunting ground is truly being managed for deer and turkeys. Then every Yote. Coon. Possum and Skunk is taken out. By whatever means. Rifle, traps, and hounds. And the only reason the Bobcat isn't on that list is because there protected unfortunately. And they need addressed here very soon. I manage my properties for wildlife. Deer and turkey populations are both great, turkeys prolly best I have seen since moved here 23 years. Not out to kill off any species. Just posted on another site how well turkeys are doing. Quality habitat has a lot to do with it. Each there own. My deer and turkeys are doing very well. Turkey number and pictures have been great this winter. But I will say if on any given day you get 6 or 7 yote pictures. You have a predator problem. I would be beside myself if I had that many in a month. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 23, 2024 19:56:36 GMT -5
That was short-lived. We killed 7 over a 2 week period.
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