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Post by tomthreetoes on Oct 28, 2007 22:42:59 GMT -5
There's a rumor going around that a small black bear was hit and killed on st. road 64 near Arthur Junction in Pike Co.. That was yesterday or Friday. This is fourth handed info, supposedly a conservation officer saw the critter. I find this hard to believe but it's not the first time that bear sign has been reported in that area. Anybody else heard about this?
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Post by raporter on Oct 29, 2007 11:06:23 GMT -5
Best way to check on this is contact Sugar Ridge and ask them.
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Post by deerman on Nov 2, 2007 22:40:31 GMT -5
I heard that he last Black Bear killed in this part of Indiana was killed in that area around 1980. I heard it was aroun where the Interlake property is now. So you never know. Give us an update after you you get it verified, Have a frind that hunts Sugar Ridge so he might need a heads up.
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Post by rabbit on Nov 3, 2007 18:24:36 GMT -5
I heard that he last Black Bear killed in this part of Indiana was killed in that area around 1980. I heard it was aroun where the Interlake property is now. So you never know. Give us an update after you you get it verified, Have a frind that hunts Sugar Ridge so he might need a heads up. I thought the last one was killed in the late 1800's near St. Croix. Never herd of any in 1980. |
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Post by beehunter on Nov 3, 2007 19:04:39 GMT -5
Correct Rabbit, it never ceases to amaze me how many people think there is a black bear or mountain lion behind every bush in Indiana. Indiana DON'T HAVE THE HABITAT to support bears or Lions. I will probaly catch heck for saying that but its the truth.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 3, 2007 20:14:06 GMT -5
I will never believe Indiana has a wild population of Bears or Lions. Although it may be possible for large cats or wolves to migrate thru along the river systems. Bobcats are here though.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 3, 2007 20:30:54 GMT -5
Bentwrench,
Thats a dog or coyote track, not bear. h.h.
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 3, 2007 20:45:31 GMT -5
Agreed. That is definately not a bear track!!
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Post by firstwd on Nov 3, 2007 22:02:33 GMT -5
4 toes and nails......canine.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 4, 2007 5:49:46 GMT -5
The only way I see it could have happened is if 1 escaped from some where. (which hopefully would have been reported)
Clarification: I was commenting in regards to the original topic.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 4, 2007 13:16:46 GMT -5
Now come on. There are no confirmed reports of bear being in Kentucky. The three that were seen and one shot down by the families place have no official record with KDFWR.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 4, 2007 17:28:19 GMT -5
Must have been a small bear as the track isn't much bigger than the leaf. I'm not doubting you but it still looks like a dog track. h.h.
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Post by mrfixit on Nov 5, 2007 5:53:41 GMT -5
There is definitely bears in Harlan Co. KY as I've been riding there and seen them myself. If anyone hasn't been there and wants a place to go for a weekend or longer to ride that's the place to go!
There was a bear spotted down around Lake Monroe a couple years ago, it was reported in the local paper. The bear must have been passing thru because you heard about it for a week or so maybe two then no more about it.
As far as Indiana habitat not being able to support bears I beg to differ. Our southern landscape is made up of much the same trees and plants that you find in the Smokies and many of the eastern states that support a healthy bear population. In fact in the early 1800's Indiana had a decent bear population before the white man came and killed them all off much like they killed off the bison that roamed our northern plains.
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 5, 2007 11:33:11 GMT -5
What happened to the post before "firstwd"? Somehow it has disapeared. And who made you two judge of what I saw. It is a common sighting in that area. There are even warning signs in many parts of these trails. I posted these pictures for a little humor, not to be judged by the local "Pros". I still stand by what I saw when I took these pictures. That post went were all others go that are meaningless and take cheap shots at members. No one is judging you but since you seem to be all upset at someone disputing your bear track picture that is an obvious dog or coyote track then show me where there is any comparison of these black bear tracks to your picture? h.h. www.bear-tracker.com/bear.htmlwww.bear-tracker.com/coyote.html |
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Post by Harley on Nov 5, 2007 15:29:06 GMT -5
MrFixit,
The reported bear sighting by Lake Monroe was by one single person that I have known for years. Now this guy is a huge outdoorsman and I would usually believe what he says he seen but in this circumstance it was late at night, very dark and a fair distance away from him....
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Post by beehunter on Nov 5, 2007 19:05:00 GMT -5
As far as Indiana habitat not being able to support bears I beg to differ. Our southern landscape is made up of much the same trees and plants that you find in the Smokies and many of the eastern states that support a healthy bear population. In fact in the early 1800's Indiana had a decent bear population before the white man came and killed them all off much like they killed off the bison that roamed our northern plains. there is a big difference in an ecosystem being able to support a large mammal like a Black Bear and actually having enough square miles for that animal to survive. Yes a bear could survive in Southern Indiana but it could not live and survive without being seen with regularity due to the large number of people that live here in our area (Greene county on south). There just is simply not enough square miles of unbroken timber to support a Black bear population in southern indiana. |
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Post by hornharvester on Nov 5, 2007 22:56:36 GMT -5
Bentwrench,
No one is disputing what you say you saw but if you look at your pictures the print is in wet sand and deep and clearly shows its a coyote or dog track. A bear would leave a full set of prints in wet sand.
Next look at the scat. You said the bear was leaving the scat when you saw it and left before you could get your camera and take a picture. The scat is old enough to be some what dried up, not from an animal that just left it.
I'm not saying you didn't see a bear but the track you posted isn't a bear and the scat is too old to be just left. Maybe you saw this track first and thought it was the bear's and maybe the bear track was up a little farther.
I'm glad you post and look forward in reading more of them. Now, this is the last I will say about the subject. h.h.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Nov 7, 2007 19:25:16 GMT -5
Black Bear Track Below. I personally see no similarities...  |
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Post by mrfixit on Nov 7, 2007 20:45:55 GMT -5
MrFixit, The reported bear sighting by Lake Monroe was by one single person that I have known for years. Now this guy is a huge outdoorsman and I would usually believe what he says he seen but in this circumstance it was late at night, very dark and a fair distance away from him.... Well it's been awhile and I can't remember all the details or at the very minimum they are fuzzy at best but wasn't it seen several other times during daylight hours and wasn't there pictures of the tracks printed in the Herald Times or was it reported in the paper that a CO that said it looked like bear tacks. Dang I can't remember, sucks getting old and contracting CRS lol. I remember it being in the paper several days in over the course of a week or so then nothing more about it. |
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Post by whiteoak on Nov 12, 2007 0:29:21 GMT -5
There's a rumor going around that a small black bear was hit and killed on st. road 64 near Arthur Junction in Pike Co.. That was yesterday or Friday. This is fourth handed info, supposedly a conservation officer saw the critter. I find this hard to believe but it's not the first time that bear sign has been reported in that area. Anybody else heard about this? I live about 2 miles South of Arthur Junction and I have not heard anything about a bear being hit and killed here. And if it would have happened, I would of heard about it. |
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